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21 July 2009 17:56  
  
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Fewer travelling to UK for abortion
  
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A number of web sites and newspapers are picking up this press release and
annual report from the Crisis Pregnancy Agency (CPA).

Two examples, below... A web search will find more.

P.O'S.

Fewer travelling to UK for abortion

Fewer travelling to UK for abortion
Monday, 20 July 2009 23:13
Figures released by the Crisis Pregnancy Agency show that the number of
women travelling from Ireland to the UK for abortions continues to decline.

Last year, 4,600 women attending abortion clinics in Britain gave an Irish
address - this is 86 fewer than in 2007, and 2,000 fewer than when the
Crisis Pregnancy Agency was established in 2001.

The number of Irish women attending abortion clinics in the Netherlands is
also declining - 331 last year, compared to 451 in 2007.

The Agency's Annual Report for 2008, released today, also shows a 20%
decrease in the number and rate of births to teenagers from 2001 to 2008.

Also, while there is a 31% decrease in the number of women travelling from
Ireland to the UK for an abortion in the last seven years, there has been a
46% decrease in the number of teenagers travelling from Ireland to Britain
for abortion.

At the launch of its report, the Agency said it wanted to highlight the
existence of agencies that seek to manipulate women by providing a
'disingenuous' crisis pregnancy counselling information service...

SOURCE
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0720/abortion.html


....A newly redeveloped website, Positiveoptions.ie, has been launched by
the CPA. On it, a dedicated section highlights the tactics used by agencies
with a hidden agenda.

The website advises women to be wary of agencies that require them to wait a
long time before giving them appointments, agencies that insist on meeting
them in a public place such as a hotel or a car park, agencies that delay in
giving women pregnancy test results, or agencies that show inappropriate
images or videos as part of a counselling session, which are designed to
influence a woman's decision.

These agencies claim to be unbiased but are instead designed to stop women
from getting abortions. Some of them expose women to upsetting and graphic
images of late-term abortions or give false information about health issues.


The campaign was announced at the launch of the CPA's annual report for 2008
yesterday. "The agency has, since its inception, made significant progress
in addressing an issue which we now know affects one in every five women
aged 18 to 34," said Health Minister Mary Harney.

The Minister noted a 31% decrease in the number of women travelling from
Ireland to the UK for abortion since the establishment of the agency, a 20%
decrease in the number and rate of births to teenagers, and a 46% decrease
in the number of teenagers travelling from Ireland to the UK for abortions.

SOURCE
http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=15848
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21 July 2009 18:09  
  
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:09:30 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Article, Persons with acquired brain injury: a disabled diaspora
  
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We have come across the following item, an Editorial in last year's Irish
Journal of Psychological Medicine. It is an interesting use of the word
'diaspora'...

Anyone who has worked at street level and in prisons will be aware that we
meet many people who are clearly brain damaged. But I was not aware that
the Republic of Ireland was sending brain damaged people abroad for
treatment and/or containment.

This, of course, adds a further footnote to the long, long discussion about
schizophrenia.

P.O'S.


Editorial

Persons with acquired brain injury: a disabled diaspora
Conor O'Neill, Mark Delargy, Clare McInerney

Ir J Psych Med 2008; 25(2): 38-3

The Vision for Change Document states that "Neuropsychiatry service needs
are largely unmet in Ireland and where they are met, it is by existing
liaison psychiatry mental health services. Additional expertise and
treatment is purchased from abroad but should and can be provided here". 1

Acquired Brain Injury (ABI) prevalence rates of up to 2%have been described
in the US. 2 In Ireland, Vision for Change estimated a neuropsychiatry need
in ABI of approximately 80cases per 100,000 population annually. 1 The risk
of ABI is greatest between the mid-teen years and mid-twenties, and again in
the elderly, with males at particular risk. The commonest causes are
transport-related injuries, followed by falls which are more frequent in
older age groups. 3 Residual deficits in cases of mild, moderate and severe
ABI have been estimated at 10%, 67% and 100% respectively. 4

Psychiatric sequelae are common and may develop several years after the
initial injury. A 30 year follow-up study of 60ABI patients found a lifetime
prevalence of 26.7% for DSM-IV major depression. 5 Kreutzer et al found a
prevalence rate for DSM-IV major depression of 42% at 2.5 years post-injury.
6 Anatomical regions implicated in the aetiology of psychosis, such as the
temporal lobes, prefrontal cortex and hippocampus, are particularly
vulnerable to acquired injury, and ABI has been estimated to account for
1-17% of all cases of schizophrenia. 7 Certain subgroups of people with
major mental illness are known to be overrepresented in prison
populations...

...The number of this "disabled diaspora",while unknown, is such that there
is a clear economic argu-ent for the development in Ireland of
specialisedchallenging behaviour units skilled in the behavioural
manage-ment and rehabilitation of persons with ABI.

Full text at

http://www.ijpm.org/content/pdf/376/Editorial.pdf

References
1. A Vision for Change. Report of the Expert Group on Mental Health Policy.
CSO.Dublin: 157-159, 2006.
2. Thurman DJ, Alverson C, Browne D, et al: Acquired Brain Injury in the
United States:A Report to Congress. Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, 1999.
3. Kraus JF, Chu LD. Epidemiology of Acquired Brain Injury. In; Silver JM,
McAllister TW,Yudofsky SC, eds. Textbook of Acquired Brain Injury.
Washington DC: AmericanPsychiatric Publishing, 2005: 8-13.
4. Torner J, Schootman M. Epidemiology of closed head injury. In: Rizzo M,
Tranel D,eds. Head Injury and Postconcussive Syndrome. New York: Churchill
Livingstone,1996: 19-46.
5. Koponen S, Taiminen T, Portin R et al: Axis I and II Psychiatric
Disorders afterAcquired Brain Injury: a 30 year follow-up study. Am J
Psychiatry 2002; 159: 1315-1321.
6. Kreutzer JS, Seel RT, Gourley E: The prevalence and symptom rates of
depressionafter Acquired Brain Injury: a comprehensive examination. Brain
Inj 2001;15: 563-576,.
7. Corcoran CM, Malaspina D. Acquired Brain Injury and schizophrenia risk.
Int J MentHealth 2001; 30: 17-32,.
8. Linehan SA, Duffy DM, Wright B, Curtin K, Monks S, Kennedy HG.
Psychiatricmorbidity in a cross-sectional sample of male remanded prisoners.
Irish Journal of Psychological Medicine 2005; 22 (4): 128-132.
9. Duffy D, Linehan S, Kennedy HG. Psychiatric morbidity in the male
sentenced Irish prisons population. Irish Journal of Psychological Medicine
2006; 23(2): 47-53.
10. Silver MA, McKinnon K: Characteristics of homeless placements discharged
from an intensive placement unit. Hosp Community Psychiatry 1993; 44:
576-578
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21 July 2009 19:22  
  
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:22:27 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Obituary, Frank McCourt
  
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The Obituary of Frank McCourt in today's Guardian is by Carlo =
G=E9bler...

Obituary
Frank McCourt
Author whose first and best-known book was his extraordinary memoir =
Angela's

Carlo G=E9bler
guardian.co.uk

Frank McCourt, who has died in his adopted city of New York aged 78 =
after
suffering from cancer and meningitis, lived a life that many Irish =
emigres
to the US have dreamed of, but few have managed to achieve. Three =
decades
after arriving in America from Limerick as an under-educated and
undernourished 19-year-old, he turned himself into an author, his first =
and
best-known book being his extraordinary memoir Angela's Ashes.

The book enjoyed considerable critical claim =96 though some critics
questioned the veracity of McCourt's bleak depiction of his childhood, =
as
well as diagnosing in him a severe case of self-pity. It was a =
bestseller,
and was later was made into a decent film: the book also made McCourt a =
rich
celebrity.

His journey from poverty-stricken emigrant to literary star was epic and
wholly American: many Americans took him to their hearts, though the =
Irish
were much less accommodating. However, fame and wealth did not go to
McCourt's head: he remained to the end a genial, humorous, ironical,
sceptical Irishman; witty, wry, charming and helpful to others, =
especially
the young. He had an unswerving, almost utopian, belief in the value of
education and its centrality in the culture, which he advocated all his
life.

There is some virtue in his detractors' argument that he founded the
misery-memoir genre and thereby spawned hundreds of books, most of them =
by
men, about their unhappy childhoods. But McCourt's memoir is much better
than those of his many imitators, and the same goes for his later books.

McCourt was born in Brooklyn, New York...

...Now, retired from teaching and happily married, he found that what he
needed to tell the story of his life from birth to the age of 19 was not =
a
fictional voice, but his own, and so he produced not a novel, but a =
memoir.

It took him 13 months to write Angela's Ashes: the book was published in
1996, won the National Book Critics Circle award in the same year, the
Pulitzer prize in 1997, and was on various bestseller lists for months. =
It
was subsequently published in 27 countries and translated into 17 =
languages.
'Tis (1999) took up the story where Angela's Ashes left off and =
described
his life in America from the age of 19 in to the conclusion of his =
teaching
career in 1985. The second book was also a bestseller, though not of the
runaway variety like the first: it was also a considerable literary work =
and
has merit as a description of Irish emigre life in the US...

Full Text at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jul/20/frank-mccourt-obituary
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21 July 2009 19:30  
  
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:30:50 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Byrne's book re. Georgian architecture in Dublin
  
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How about Robert O'Byrne's book on the Irish Georgian Society.
=20
> Date: Tue=2C 21 Jul 2009 13:07:27 -0500
> From: JROGERS[at]STTHOMAS.EDU
> Subject: [IR-D] Georgian architecture in Dublin
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>=20
> Could the list suggest good sources for learning about the controversies =
about the demolition of Georgian Dublin in the 1960s and '70s=2C and perhap=
s more important=2C about the rise of a architectural-preservation consciou=
sness in Ireland?
>=20
> Thank in advance
>=20
> Jim Rogers

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Share your memories online with anyone you want.
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21 July 2009 21:54  
  
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:54:19 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Re: Byrne's book re. Georgian architecture in Dublin
  
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Frank McDonald's book, The Destruction of Dublin, should be of use.


Quoting Ciar=E1n & Margaret =D3 h=D3gartaigh :

> How about Robert O'Byrne's book on the Irish Georgian Society.
>
> > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:07:27 -0500
> > From: JROGERS[at]STTHOMAS.EDU
> > Subject: [IR-D] Georgian architecture in Dublin
> > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >
> > Could the list suggest good sources for learning about the controvers=
ies
> about the demolition of Georgian Dublin in the 1960s and '70s, and perh=
aps
> more important, about the rise of a architectural-preservation consciou=
sness
> in Ireland?
> >
> > Thank in advance
> >
> > Jim Rogers
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Share your memories online with anyone you want.
>
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e.aspx?tab=3D1
>


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dr. William Jenkins
Associate Professor
Department of Geography
Graduate Programmes in Geography and History
York University
4700 Keele Street
Toronto, Ontario M5J 1P3
Canada
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21 July 2009 23:26  
  
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:26:20 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Re: Georgian architecture in Dublin
  
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It is certainly an interesting discourse...

A good starting point with this sort of query is BCIN

BCIN, the Bibliographic Database of the Conservation Information Network, is
the Web's most complete bibliographic resource for the conservation,
preservation and restoration of cultural property.

http://www.bcin.ca/English/home_english.html

Two items stand out...

Kearns, K.C. (1983). Georgian Dublin: Ireland's imperilled architectural
heritage. Newton Abbot: David & Charles.
BCIN Number: 202530

Corporate Author: An Taisce
Title of Source: Georgian Dublin; Policy for survival
Subject Keywords English: conservation of historic towns;historic town
centres; conservation policy;Ireland - destruction of cultural heritage;
listing of historic monuments;recommendations ICOMOS
Subject Label: Architectural Conservation
Subject Corporation: Architectural Conservation
Subject Monument: Dublin (Ireland)
Abstract: The An Taisce association has drawn attention to the disappearance
of an important element of the architectural heritage in the heart of 18th
and 19th century Dublin due to demolition, construction of office buildings,
more or less approximate reproduction of facades, and inappropriate urban
renewal. The association aims at strengthening conservation policy and along
those lines has made a number of recommendations concerning those houses
that should be included on protection lists, restoration of interior
architecture and gardens, state subsidies and problems of deterioration of
material. -- AATA
BCIN Number: 25122

Which gives you the names to probe further...

Preservation and Transformation of Georgian Dublin
Kevin C. Kearns
Geographical Review, Vol. 72, No. 3 (Jul., 1982), pp. 270-290
Published by: American Geographical Society

The Decay of Georgian Dublin
Donal T. Flood
Dublin Historical Record, Vol. 27, No. 3 (Jun., 1974), pp. 78-100
Published by: Old Dublin Society

Elene Negussie
Dublin, Ireland
In
Management of historic centres By Rob Pickard
Taylor & Francis; 2000

And
What is worth conserving in the urban environment?
Negussie, E.
IRISH GEOGRAPHY
2004, VOL 37; PART 2, pages 202-222

Andrew Kincaid
They stand for all things I hate
In
Urban communication By Timothy A. Gibson, Mark Douglas Lowes
Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, 2006

The Georgian City: the Compact City as Idealised Past or Future Ideal
Gergory J Ashworth
GBER Vol. 4 No. 3 pp 40 - 53

P.O'S.


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Subject: [IR-D] Georgian architecture in Dublin

Could the list suggest good sources for learning about the controversies
about the demolition of Georgian Dublin in the 1960s and '70s, and perhaps
more important, about the rise of a architectural-preservation
consciousness in Ireland?

Thank in advance

Jim Rogers
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22 July 2009 08:05  
  
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:05:08 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Blushful Hippocrene
  
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I am about to take a holiday...

We will take our narrowboat south, to the palm trees and savannahs of
Shropshire.

Bill Mulligan will look after the Irish Diaspora list for the next few
weeks. Our thanks to Bill.

Remember that during the (northern hemisphere's) summer holiday you can
manage your membership of the Irish Diaspora list by logging on at Jiscmail
http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/

P.O'S.

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22 July 2009 15:21  
  
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:21:29 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
IR-D James J. O'Kelly and Cuba
  
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From; Patrick Maume
Participants on this list may be interested in this onl;ine press-release
from SIPTU describing a wreath-laying on the grave of James J. O'Kelly (the
Fenian and Home Rule MP) by the Cuban Ambassador and announcing that later
this month O'Kelly's account of his experiences as a journalsit covering the
First Cuban War of Independence in the 1870s will be reprinted by the SIPTU
trade union, with a lengthy introduction by Manus O'Riordan (son of the late
Communist Party of Ireland leader Michael O'Riordan). It is possible to
order photocopied reprints of O'Kelly's book over the Net from reprint
services (I hae a copy from the University of Michigan) but those do not
have editorial material. O'Riordan's political viewpoint is pretty
well-known but it will be interesting to see what he has turned up about
O'Kelly
http://www.emara.org/news/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2666

I was alerted to this by reading the current issue of IRISH POLITICAL
REVIEW (Aubane Historical Society, Brendan Clifford and Co) to which
O'Riordan is a rgular contributor. Lest anyone think these gentlemen have
gone soft, the story on the front page contains the remark "Of course
Ahmedinejad won the election...."
BEst wishes,
Patrick

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From; Patrick Maume
Participants on this list may be interested in this onl;ine press-rele=
ase from SIPTU describing a wreath-laying on the grave of James J. O'Ke=
lly (the Fenian and Home Rule MP) by the Cuban Ambassador and announcing th=
at later this month O'Kelly's account of his experiences as a journ=
alsit covering the First Cuban War of Independence in the 1870s will be rep=
rinted by the SIPTU trade union, with a lengthy introduction by Manus O'=
;Riordan (son of the late Communist Party of Ireland leader Michael O'R=
iordan).=A0 It is possible to order photocopied reprints of O'Kelly'=
;s book over the Net from reprint services (I hae a copy from the Universit=
y of Michigan) but those do not have editorial material.=A0 O'Riordan&#=
39;s political viewpoint is pretty well-known but it will be interesting to=
see what he has turned up about O'Kelly

http://www.emara.org/news/modules.php?name=3DNew=
s&file=3Darticle&sid=3D2666
=A0
=A0 I was alerted to this by reading the current issue of IRISH POLITI=
CAL REVIEW (Aubane Historical Society, Brendan Clifford and Co) to which O&=
#39;Riordan is a rgular contributor.=A0 Lest anyone think these gentlemen h=
ave gone soft, the story on the front page contains the remark "Of cou=
rse Ahmedinejad won the election...."

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 BEst wishes,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Patrick

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22 July 2009 22:09  
  
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:09:23 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Book Review, Crossman, Virginia, Politics,
  
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Subject: Book Review, Crossman, Virginia, Politics,
Pauperism and Power in Late Nineteenth-Century Ireland
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Those who read German will be interested in this review of Virginia
Crossman's book on the H-Soz-u-Kult list. The rest of us will stick the
review through Babelfish...

Reviewed for H-Soz-u-Kult by Inga Brandes
Crossman, Virginia. _Politics, Pauperism and Power in Late
Nineteenth-Century Ireland_. Manchester: Manchester University
Press, 2006. 256 S. $74.95, ISBN 978-0-7190-7377-9.
http://www.h-net.msu.edu/reviews/showrev.php?id=25374

The review criticises the lack of theory, of course, and concludes...

'The book represents a welcome contribution to the Irish and European
poverty and welfare historiography, and because it is written in a very
reader-friendly clear style, it earns a broad readership.'

P.O'S.
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23 July 2009 14:49  
  
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:49:37 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Charlotte Riddell and the City of London
  
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From: Patrick Maume
This review by James Gregory of Ranald Michie's GUILTY MONEY: THE CITY OF
LONDON IN VISTORIAN AND EDWARDIAN CULTURE (Pickering & Chatto, 2009) on the
REVIEWS IN HISTORY website has a hidden Irish diaspora element. The
novelist Charlotte Riddell, mentioned both in the review and in Michie's
response, was from Ulster (Belfast/rural North Down) and wrote several
novels set there, such as BERNA BOYLE (which has an interesting old v. new
money theme, perhaps not so far distant from the City novels discussed
here).
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/paper/gregoryj.html (Gregory's review)
Charlotte Riddell, we learn, attracted a loyal following for her novels of
the City in the 1860s, and, in an interesting quotation Michie makes from
her novel *Austin Friars* (1870) she point out that =91the majority of writ=
ers
who have undertaken to portray business know nothing on earth about it=92. =
A
novelist who depended on her literary earnings to support a bankrupt
husband, she seems to be the closest we get to an apologist for the City an=
d
commercial men =96 and of course this is not the City as it had developed b=
y
the 1900s.
http://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/paper/gregoryjresp.html (Michie's response=
)
If any novelist does deserve a revival, which is a question that Dr Gregory
poses, then I would single out Charlotte Riddell, especially her novel
Austin Friars. I really enjoyed reading it but possibly its description of
the mechanics of bill finance does not appeal to everyone. Though Dr Gregor=
y
is unaware of it I am well aware of her background and output and the only
reason I can find for her neglect over the years is that she is favourable
to the City, but then only in certain respects. But, then, I am no judge of
literary merit.
Best wishes,
Patrick

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From: Patrick Maume
This review by James Gregory=A0of Ranald Michie's GUILTY MONEY: TH=
E CITY OF LONDON IN VISTORIAN AND EDWARDIAN CULTURE (Pickering & Chatto=
, 2009) on the REVIEWS IN HISTORY website=A0has a hidden Irish diaspora ele=
ment.=A0 The novelist Charlotte Riddell, mentioned both in the review and i=
n Michie's response, was from Ulster (Belfast/rural North Down)=A0and w=
rote several novels set there, such as BERNA BOYLE (which has an interestin=
g old v. new money theme, perhaps not so far distant from the City novels d=
iscussed here).

http:=
//www.history.ac.uk/reviews/paper/gregoryj.html=A0(Gregory's review=
)
Charlotte Riddell, we learn, attracted a loyal following for her novel=
s of the City in the 1860s, and, in an interesting quotation Michie makes f=
rom her novel Austin Friars (1870) she point out that =91the major=
ity of writers who have undertaken to portray business know nothing on eart=
h about it=92. A novelist who depended on her literary earnings to support =
a bankrupt husband, she seems to be the closest we get to an apologist for =
the City and commercial men =96 and of course this is not the City as it ha=
d developed by the 1900s.

h=
ttp://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/paper/gregoryjresp.html=A0(Michie's=
response)
If any novelist does deserve a revival, which is a question that Dr Gr=
egory poses, then I would single out Charlotte Riddell, especially her nove=
l Austin Friars. I really enjoyed reading it but possibly its description o=
f the mechanics of bill finance does not appeal to everyone. Though Dr Greg=
ory is unaware of it I am well aware of her background and output and the o=
nly reason I can find for her neglect over the years is that she is favoura=
ble to the City, but then only in certain respects. But, then, I am no judg=
e of literary merit.

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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Best wishes,
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:39:38 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Re: 'Forgotten Irish' query
  
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I=B9m very rushed right now (going out of town early tomorrow), and, anyway,
I=B9m no expert on sources for the Irish in the UK.

Two suggestions:

1. Don Macraild, prof. of history at the University of Ulster, Coleraine.

2. Circulate your questions through the Irish Diaspora list-serve, many of
whose members (Ultan Cowley, Frank Neal, Mary Hickman, etc.) are experts on
the subject. The list=B9s e-mail address is: The Irish Diaspora Studies Lis=
t
. But, for permission (which I=B9m sure will be granted=
,
e-mail to: Patrick O'Sullivan and, since I
think Paddy=B9s on vacation now, to: "William Mulligan Jr."
.

Good luck,

Kerby


On 7/24/09 8:55 AM, "Ronan Lawlor" wrote:

> Hello
>=20
> I am a researcher with Animo Television here in Dublin and am researching=
the
> upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, which is centred around the
> experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the 1940s right up to the 19=
80. I
> am currently in the process of sourcing archive visuals of the Irish comm=
unity
> in the UK (e.g. stills/video footage/personal photographs etc.) and was
> wondering if you direct me towards any sources of this nature in Ireland?=
I
> have a good few tracked down in the UK to date but am keen to find some i=
n the
> Dublin area as our edit starts next week.
>=20
> You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.
>=20
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> ronan
>=20
> Ronan Lawlor
>=20
> Researcher=20
>=20
> Animo TV
>=20
> 4 Windmill Lane | Dublin 2 | Ireland
>=20
> t: +353 1 6174780 | ronanl[at]animo.ie
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =20
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I’m very rushed right now (going out of town early tomorrow), and, a=
nyway, I’m no expert on sources for the Irish in the UK.  

Two suggestions:

Don Macraild, prof. of history at the University of =
Ulster, Coleraine.    

2.  Circulate your questions through the Irish Diaspora list-serve, ma=
ny of whose members (Ultan Cowley, Frank Neal, Mary Hickman, etc.) are exper=
ts on the subject.  The list’s e-mail address is:  The Irish Diaspora Studies List <IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK>.  But, for =
permission (which I’m sure will be granted, e-mail to:  Patrick O'Sullivan <P.OSullivan[at]BRADFORD.AC.UK> and, since I think Paddy’s on vacation now,  =
to:  "William Mulligan Jr." <billmulligan[at]MURRAY-KY.NET> .

Good luck,

Kerby


On 7/24/09 8:55 AM, "Ronan Lawlor" <=
ronanl[at]ANIMO.IE> wrote:

Hello

I am a researcher with Animo Television here =
in Dublin and am researching the upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, w=
hich is centred around the experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the =
1940s right up to the 1980. I am currently in the process of sourcing archiv=
e visuals of the Irish community in the UK (e.g. stills/video footage/person=
al photographs etc.) and was wondering if you direct me towards any sources =
of this nature in Ireland? I have a good few tracked down in the UK to date =
but am keen to find some in the Dublin area as our edit starts next week.

You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated

Regards

ronan

Ronan Lawlor

Researcher

Animo TV

4 Windmill Lane |=
Dublin 2 | Ireland

t: +353 1 6174780=
| ronanl[at]animo.i=
e <mailto:ronanl[at]animo.ie>=





 

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24 July 2009 11:03  
  
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:03:17 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Re: 'Forgotten Irish' query
  
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Sorry, I=B9m so harassed at the moment that I didn=B9t notice that the IR-D had
forwarded this to me. I thought it came directly from Lawlor in Dublin.
Kerby


On 7/24/09 8:55 AM, "Ronan Lawlor" wrote:

> Hello
>=20
> I am a researcher with Animo Television here in Dublin and am researching=
the
> upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, which is centred around the
> experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the 1940s right up to the 19=
80. I
> am currently in the process of sourcing archive visuals of the Irish comm=
unity
> in the UK (e.g. stills/video footage/personal photographs etc.) and was
> wondering if you direct me towards any sources of this nature in Ireland?=
I
> have a good few tracked down in the UK to date but am keen to find some i=
n the
> Dublin area as our edit starts next week.
>=20
> You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.
>=20
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated
>=20
> Regards
>=20
> ronan
>=20
> Ronan Lawlor
>=20
> Researcher=20
>=20
> Animo TV
>=20
> 4 Windmill Lane | Dublin 2 | Ireland
>=20
> t: +353 1 6174780 | ronanl[at]animo.ie
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> =20
>=20
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> privileged. The information is intended exclusively for the addressee
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Sorry, I’m so harassed at the moment that I didn’t notice that=
the IR-D had forwarded this to me.  I thought it came directly from La=
wlor in Dublin.
Kerby


On 7/24/09 8:55 AM, "Ronan Lawlor" <=
ronanl[at]ANIMO.IE> wrote:

Hello

I am a researcher with Animo Television here =
in Dublin and am researching the upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, w=
hich is centred around the experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the =
1940s right up to the 1980. I am currently in the process of sourcing archiv=
e visuals of the Irish community in the UK (e.g. stills/video footage/person=
al photographs etc.) and was wondering if you direct me towards any sources =
of this nature in Ireland? I have a good few tracked down in the UK to date =
but am keen to find some in the Dublin area as our edit starts next week.

You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated

Regards

ronan

Ronan Lawlor

Researcher

Animo TV

4 Windmill Lane |=
Dublin 2 | Ireland

t: +353 1 6174780=
| ronanl[at]animo.i=
e <mailto:ronanl[at]animo.ie>=





 

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24 July 2009 11:15  
  
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:15:51 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Reports on migration in the UK heritage sector
  
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Message from
Mary Stevens
mary.stevens[at]ucl.ac.uk

below...

P.O'S.

-----Original Message-----
List members may be interested in two recent reports from the UK-based
think-tank, the Institute for Public Policy Research, exploring the
representation of migration in the UK heritage sector and the prospects
for a British museum of migration.

Working group report on the idea of a migration museum:
http://www.ippr.org.uk/publicationsandreports/publication.asp?id=681

Supporting research report by Mary Stevens on the representation of
migration in the UK heritage sector:
http://www.ippr.org.uk/publicationsandreports/publication.asp?id=682


Regards,
Mary Stevens, MA PhD
Research Associate
Community Archives and Identities: Documenting and Sustaining Community
Heritage (AHRC project) Department of Information Studies University
College London

mary.stevens[at]ucl.ac.uk
tel: + 44 (0)20 7679 3232
ext: 33232


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24 July 2009 15:55  
  
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:55:07 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
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Hello

I am a researcher with Animo Television here in Dublin and am
researching the upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, which is
centred around the experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the
1940s right up to the 1980. I am currently in the process of sourcing
archive visuals of the Irish community in the UK (e.g. stills/video
footage/personal photographs etc.) and was wondering if you direct me
towards any sources of this nature in Ireland? I have a good few tracked
down in the UK to date but am keen to find some in the Dublin area as
our edit starts next week.

You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated =


Regards

ronan

Ronan Lawlor

Researcher =


Animo TV

4 Windmill Lane | Dublin 2 | Ireland

t: +353 1 6174780 | ronanl[at]animo.ie =








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this nature in Irela=
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I have a good few tracked down in the UK
to date but am keen to find some in the Dublin
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You
can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.

Any
guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated

Regards

ronan

Ron=
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Lawlor

Researcher

Animo TV

4 Windmill Lane
| Dublin 2 | Ireland

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24 July 2009 16:37  
  
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:37:37 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Re: 'Forgotten Irish' query
  
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Dear Ronan,
I'm sorry that I don't know offhand of anything on this side, but good luck
with the project which sounds very interesting indeed.
All best,
Joe Lee.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Ronan Lawlor wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am a researcher with Animo Television here in Dublin and am researching
> the upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, which is centred around the
> experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the 1940s right up to the 1980.
> I am currently in the process of sourcing archive visuals of the Irish
> community in the UK (e.g. stills/video footage/personal photographs etc.)
> and was wondering if you direct me towards any sources of this nature in
> Ireland? I have a good few tracked down in the UK to date but am keen to
> find some in the Dublin area as our edit starts next week.
>
> You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.
>
> Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated
>
> Regards
>
> ronan
>
> Ronan Lawlor
>
> Researcher
>
> Animo TV
>
> 4 Windmill Lane | Dublin 2 | Ireland
>
> t: +353 1 6174780 | ronanl[at]animo.ie
>
>
>
>
> This email may contain information which is confidential and/or
> privileged. The information is intended exclusively for the addressee
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> views of the originator. Please notify the sender immediately if you
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Dear Ronan,
I'm sorry that I=A0don't know offhand of anything on this side=
, but good luck with the project which sounds very interesting indeed.
All best,
Joe Lee.=A0
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gt; wrote:



Hello
I am a =
researcher with Animo Television here in Dublin and am researching t=
he upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, which is centred around the ex=
perience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the 1940s right up to the 1980. =
I am currently in the process of sourcing archive visuals of the Irish comm=
unity in the UK (e.g. stills/video footage/personal photographs etc.) and w=
as wondering if you direct me towards any sources of this nature in Ireland=
? I have a good few tracked down in the UK to date but am keen to find some=
in the Dublin area as our edit starts next week.

You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.=

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated
Regards
ronan
Ronan Lawlor
Researcher
Animo TV
4 Windmill Lane | Dublin 2 | Ireland

t: +353 1 617478=
0 | ronanl[at]animo.ie


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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:37:37 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Re: 'Forgotten Irish' query
  
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'Forgotten Irish' queryThere's a list of emigration-related =
documentaries here, including several about the Irish in the UK --

http://www.ean.ie/2009/emigration-in-film-a-select-list-of-documentaries/=


Not sure if this photograph by Kate Horgan would be suitable for your =
project as it's a departure scene taken at Dublin Airport, but it's a =
really powerful image of 1980s-era emigration.
http://www.katehorgan.com/galleryA.htm

Regards,
Noreen

Noreen Bowden
web: http://www.ean.ie
twitter: NoreenBowden
mobile: +353 (0)87 211 1397



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To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK=20
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 2:55 PM
Subject: [IR-D] 'Forgotten Irish' query


Hello

I am a researcher with Animo Television here in Dublin and am =
researching the upcoming TV3 series, The Forgotten Irish, which is =
centred around the experience of Irish emigrants in the UK from the =
1940s right up to the 1980. I am currently in the process of sourcing =
archive visuals of the Irish community in the UK (e.g. stills/video =
footage/personal photographs etc.) and was wondering if you direct me =
towards any sources of this nature in Ireland? I have a good few tracked =
down in the UK to date but am keen to find some in the Dublin area as =
our edit starts next week.

You can reach me at my contact details below to discuss.

Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated=20

Regards

ronan

Ronan Lawlor

Researcher=20

Animo TV

4 Windmill Lane | Dublin 2 | Ireland

t: +353 1 6174780 | ronanl[at]animo.ie







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Not sure if this photograph by Kate =
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Airport, but it's a really powerful image of 1980s-era=20
emigration.
http://www.katehorgan.com=
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Regards,
Noreen
 
Noreen Bowden
web: http://www.ean.ie
twitter: NoreenBowden
mobile: +353 (0)87 211 =
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Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 =
2:55 PM
Subject: [IR-D] 'Forgotten =
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28 July 2009 11:48  
  
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:48:47 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
recordings of Collins?
  
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A casual but interesting query in my e-mail in-box today, and one way beyo=
nd my knowledge:

"Do you know of anywhere, any CD or anything, that has Michael Collins' act=
ual voice? His actual recorded voice, doing a speech or something?"

Does anyone on the list know? I noodled around on Google for just a minute=
and admit I was surprised to find how far back recordings can be found - s=
ee
http://www.historicalvoices.org/earliest_voices/ for example. But I found=
nothing Irish

Jim R

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 A casual but interesting query in my e-mail in-box today, and=
one
way beyond my knowledge:

 

“Do you know of anywhere, any CD or anything, that has Michae=
l
Collins' actual voice? His actual recorded voice, doing a speech or somethi=
ng?”

 

Does anyone on the list know?  I noodled around on Google for =
just
a minute and admit I was surprised to find how far back recordings can be f=
ound
– see

http://www.historicalvoices.=
org/earliest_voices/
 for example.  But I found nothing Irish

 

Jim R







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28 July 2009 19:06  
  
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Re: Patsy McGarry, take 2
  
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From; Patrick Maume
Here is a link to a slightly fuller account of Derek Leinster's experiences
(in the IRISH NEWS) which makes it clear that he is complaining of neglect
and mistreatment in the Bethany Home itself as well as by the foster-parents
with whom he was placed.

http://www.irishnews.com/articles/540/5860/2009/7/20/622986_388111555197Protestant.html

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Patrick Maume wrote:

> From: Patrick Maume
> I'm not sure this is really comparable to the Ryan Report because he does
> not say very much about the Bethany Home (which appears to have been a
> short-stay "mother and baby" home rather than a Magdalen Asylum) and he was
> abused by a foster-parent rather than in an institution. His real complaint
> appears to be about attitudes to extra-marital pregnancy.
> The reference to Rev. Thomas Chatterton Hammond is interesting. He was
> the head of the Irish Church Mission; when I was researching the IRISH
> WEEKLY INDEPENDENT for the 1920s and 1930s I saw quite a few reports of
> custody cases involving orphans of a mixed/apparently mixed marriage in
> which a Catholic relative supported by a religious order was suing agaisnt a
> Protestant relative supported by Hammond, and it was pretty clear that the
> real issue was whether the unfortunate children would be brought up in a
> Protestant or a Catholic orphanage. The extent to which these institutions
> were shaped by this sort of denominational competition is often overlooked.
> There is a direct diaspora relevance, as Hammond emigrated to Australia
> in 1936 to become Principal of Moore Theological College, Sydney, where he
> became a major architect of the ultra-Evangelical for of Anglicanism still
> found in the Sydney Archdiocese. I have seen him compared to Daniel Mannix
> as an example of Irish theological conflicts exported to Australia (both
> were from Co. Cork; Hammond I think grew up near Kinsale, Mannix from
> Charleville).
> There is a short reverential biography by Warren Nelson, published by
> Banner of Truth, Edinburgh in 1994, which is very eveasive about such issues
> as the extent of his involvement in Orangeism.
> Here is his Wikipedia entry:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._C._Hammond
> Best wishes,
> Patrick
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Patrick O'Sullivan P.OSullivan[at]bradford.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Subject: Patsy McGarry, take 2
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:38:48 +0100
>> From: "MacEinri, Piaras"
>> To: "The Irish Diaspora Studies List"
>> Dear All
>>
>> The article below, which appears in today's Irish Times, answers in part
>> a question raised some weeks ago (by David Rose?) about Protestants and
>> abuse in Ireland. It may give some comfort as well to those who
>> disagreed so strongly with Patsy McGarry's piece!
>>
>> Piaras
>>
>> Protestant abuse victims must also be heard
>>
>> Wed, Jul 01, 2009
>>
>> OPINION: Victims of Protestant prejudice and State neglect are at a
>> disadvantage, writes DEREK LEINSTER=20
>>
>> Full text at...
>> http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/0701/1224249837505.html
>>
>
>

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From; Patrick Maume
Here is a link to a slightly fuller account of Derek Leinster's ex=
periences (in the IRISH NEWS) which makes it clear that he is complaining o=
f neglect and mistreatment in the Bethany Home itself as well as=A0by the f=
oster-parents with whom he was placed.=A0

=A0
http://www.irishnews.com/articles/540/5860/20=
09/7/20/622986_388111555197Protestant.html
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Patrick Maume <pmaume[at]google=
mail.com> wrote:

From: Patrick Maume
I'm not sure this is really comparable to the Ryan Report because =
he does not say very much about the Bethany Home (which appears to have bee=
n a short-stay "mother and baby" home rather than a Magdalen Asyl=
um) and he was abused by a foster-parent rather than in an institution.=A0 =
His real complaint appears to be about attitudes to extra-marital pregnancy=
.

=A0 The reference to Rev. Thomas Chatterton Hammond is interesting.=A0=
=A0He was the head of the Irish Church Mission; when I was researching the =
IRISH WEEKLY INDEPENDENT=A0for the 1920s and 1930s I saw quite a few report=
s of custody cases involving orphans of a mixed/apparently mixed marriage i=
n which a Catholic relative supported by a religious order was suing agaisn=
t a Protestant relative supported by Hammond, and it was pretty clear that =
the real issue was whether the unfortunate children would be brought up=A0i=
n a Protestant or a Catholic orphanage.=A0 The extent=A0to which these inst=
itutions were shaped by this sort of denominational competition is often ov=
erlooked.

=A0 There is a direct diaspora relevance, as Hammond emigrated to Aust=
ralia in 1936 to become Principal of Moore Theological College, Sydney, whe=
re he became a major architect of the ultra-Evangelical=A0for of Anglicanis=
m still found in the Sydney Archdiocese.=A0 I have seen him compared to Dan=
iel Mannix as an=A0example of Irish theological conflicts exported to Austr=
alia (both were from Co. Cork; Hammond I think grew up near Kinsale, Mannix=
from Charleville).

=A0 There is a short reverential biography by Warren Nelson, published=
by Banner of Truth, Edinburgh in 1994, which is very eveasive about such i=
ssues as the extent of his involvement in Orangeism.
=A0 Here is his Wikipedia entry:=A0=A0=A0=A0http://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/T._C._Hammond
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Best wishes,
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Patrick



On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Patrick O'Su=
llivan <P.OSullivan[at]bradford.ac.uk> wrote:
Subject: Patsy McGarry, take 2Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:38:48 +0100From: "MacEinri, Piaras"=
; <p.maceinri[at]ucc=
.ie>
To: "The Irish Diaspora Studies List" <IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK>Dear AllThe article below, which appears in today's Irish Times, answers =
in part
a question raised some weeks ago (by David Rose?) about Protestants and=
abuse in Ireland. It may give some comfort as well to those whodisagree=
d so strongly with Patsy McGarry's piece!PiarasProtesta=
nt abuse victims must also be heard
Wed, Jul 01, 2009OPINION: Victims of Protestant prejudice and S=
tate neglect are at adisadvantage, writes DEREK LEINSTER=3D20Fu=
ll text at...http://www.irishtimes.com/news=
paper/opinion/2009/0701/1224249837505.html


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29 July 2009 11:53  
  
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:53:02 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
Wall Street Journal Article on McCourt & Sexual Abuse in Ireland
  
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Thanks to Tom Archdeacon for bringing this to our attention.=20

There is a lot of Diaspora interest in the article. Unfortunately, =
access
to the Wall Street Journal requires a subscription and list policy about
copyright does not allow including the entire article. It is of =
sufficient
interest and relates to topics being discussed that I want to share the
reference so list members are aware of it.=20

McCourt's death, not surprisingly, has sparked a great deal of comment =
and
reflection on his work.

Wall Street Journal, July 24, 2009

The Faith of Frank McCourt

By PETER DUFFY

Frank McCourt, who died on Sunday at age 78, was the most Catholic of
authors.
. . .

Somewhere Mr. McCourt, who loved to spar with critics, is smiling.
"Anti-clericalism, they said about me," he told a newspaper reporter in
2002, who noted that Mr. McCourt's eyebrows arched with skepticism. "I =
just
told the story that millions of other Catholics would tell about their =
own
lives." Referring to the clergy sexual-abuse, he said: "Maybe now people =
are
beginning to realize that I was just a bit too early with the truth."
. . .=20

Mr. Duffy is the author of The Killing of Major Denis=20
Mahon: A Mystery of Old Ireland. =20


William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D.
Professor of History
Graduate Program Coordinator=20
Murray State University
Murray KY 42071-3341 USA=20
Office: 1-270-809-6571
Fax: 1-270-809-6587=20
=20
=20
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29 July 2009 17:56  
  
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:56:09 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG0907.txt]
  
H-Albion Review Editor Position - Irish Studies
  
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Review Editor Position - Irish Studies

H-Albion is accepting applications for the position of review editor
in Irish Studies. The editor will assign and edit reviews of books on
Irish History from the early modern period to the present. Please send
an e-mail of interest and cv to Jason Kelly: jaskelly[at]iupui.edu.
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