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Dymphna's quotation from John Donne does appear to approximate the meanin=
g of the
Irish proverb under discussion. However, what Donne wrote was: 'No man is=
an Island,
entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the ma=
in. Any
man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind...' (Devotion=
s, XVII).

Elizabeth
--------------------------------------------
> Just a comment on your translation, Paddy, that 'The proverb in Ciar=EF=
=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD
> h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh's title would
> mean something like, People live in each other's shadows.' The word sca=
th
> here is used in the sense of 'protection': people live under the protec=
tion
> of each other'. The English equivalent of the proverb is probably 'No m=
an is
> an island onto himself'. The Irish proverb is often used in acknowledgi=
ng
> group work-such as our own!
>
> On 8/6/08, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> The journal Accounting, Business & Financial History has a tradition o=
f
>> creating country-based special issues with the expressed aim of
>> 'internationalising' the study of accounting history. Countries and
>> accounting locales which have been the subject of these special issues
>> include France (1997, 2001), the United States (2000), Japan (2001), S=
pain
>> (2002), China (2003), the 'German language arena' (2005) and Italy (20=
07).
>>
>> Accounting, Business & Financial History, Volume 18 Issue 1 2008 was a=
n
>> Ireland special issue, edited by
>> Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh
>> UCD School of Business, University College Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
>>
>> I have pasted in the TOC below. Copy & Paste has played havoc with th=
e
>> Irish Language elements, which I have corrected as best I can. Those
>> elements are interesting in themselves, of course - as international
>> signifiers of Irishness. The proverb in Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=
=BF=BDgartaigh's title would
>> mean something like, People live in each other's shadows. Another Iri=
sh
>> signifier in his Editorial is a glum quote from Louis MacNeice.
>>
>> Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh has also compiled a databa=
se of accounting and
>> corporate
>> governance archives in the National Archives of Ireland (Bishop Street=
,
>> Dublin) and the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI, Belfa=
st) -
>> available at
>> http://webpages.dcu.ie/~ohogartc/busarchivesinfo.htm
>>
>> This special issue of Accounting, Business & Financial History is full=
of
>> interest. Margaret =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh's article is very use=
ful. Of specific
>> interest is Peter Clarke's article, with its suggestion that emigratin=
g
>> Irish people took with them book keeping skills. Keith Warnock finds
>> something new to say about Joyce. With the suggestion that, in analysi=
ng,
>> 'Compile the budget for 16 June 1904', literary critics have perhaps
>> heretofore known too little about accounting procedures.
>>
>> Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh and his colleagues are to =
be congratulated.
>>
>> P.O'S.
>>
>> Editorials
>> 'Ar scath a cheile a mhaireann na daoine' - shadow and shade in Irish
>> accounting history
>> 1 =EF=BF=BD 6
>> Author: Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh
>>
>> Original Articles
>>
>> Irish accounting, business and financial history: a bibliographical es=
say
>> 7 =EF=BF=BD 19
>> Author: Margaret O Hgartaigh
>>
>> The teaching of bookkeeping in nineteenth-century Ireland
>> 21 =EF=BF=BD 33
>> Author: Peter Clarke
>>
>> 'Elevating the profession': the Institute of Chartered Accountants in
>> Ireland and the implementation of social closure strategies 1888-1909
>> 35 =EF=BF=BD 59
>> Author: Philip O'regan
>>
>> Irish voluntary hospitals: an examination of a theory of voluntary fai=
lure
>> 61 =EF=BF=BD 80
>> Authors: Geraldine Robbins; Irvine Lapsley
>>
>> Auditing Bloom, editing Joyce: accounting and accountability in Ulysse=
s
>> 81 =EF=BF=BD 95
>> Author: Keith Warnock
>>
>


__________________________________________________
Professor Elizabeth Malcolm

Gerry Higgins Chair of Irish Studies
School of Historical Studies ~ University of Melbourne ~ Victoria, 3010, =
AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61-3-83443924 ~ Email: e.malcolm[at]unimelb.edu.au

President
Irish Studies Association of Australia and New Zealand (ISAANZ)
Website: http://isaanz.org
__________________________________________________

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Irish Studies Review: Volume 16 Issue 3

Special Issue: Kinsella at eighty

This new issue contains the following articles:

Preamble, Page 229


'Keep us alert / for the while remaining': Kinsella at eighty, Pages 231 -
234
Author: Derval Tubridy

Close Reading, Pages 235 - 237
Author: Floyd Skloot

Poems, Pages 239 - 243
Author: David Wheatley

Scepticism, faith and the recognition of the 'Patriarch-Mother' in the
poetry of Thomas Kinsella, Pages 245 - 265
Author: Catriona Clutterbuck

'Let the Fall begin': Thomas Kinsella's European dimension, Pages 267 - 281
Author: Andrew Fitzsimons

'Never altogether the same. But the same': strategies of revision in Thomas
Kinsella's Notes from the Land of the Dead, Pages 283 - 293
Author: Lucy Collins

Kinsella's Dublins and the Stone Mother, Pages 295 - 303
Author: Dillon Johnston

'Hearing the American voice': Thomas Kinsella and William Carlos Williams,
Pages 305 - 327
Author: Ian Flanagan


'All is emptiness / and I must spin': Thomas Kinsella and the romance of
decay, Pages 329 - 333
Author: David Wheatley

Thomas Kinsella: a selected bibliography, 2008, Pages 335 - 343
Author: Derval Tubridy

History, Politics And Art, Pages 345 - 367
Author: Brian Griffin

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Ethnopolitics

Special Issue: Northern Ireland 10 years after the Agreement

Special Issue: Volume 7, Issue 1, 2008

Guest Edited by Chris Gilligan, Aston University, UK

This special issue of Ethnopolitics takes the tenth anniversary of the
signing of a peace Agreement in Belfast, Northern Ireland, on Good Friday 10
April 1998, as an opportunity to reflect on, and assess, developments in
Northern Ireland since the Agreement.

Further info and special offer at
http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/spissue/reno-si.asp

Articles

Northern Ireland Ten Years after the Agreement
1 - 19
Author: Chris Gilligan

A Comparative Study of the Discursive Legitimation of the Agreement by the
Four Main Northern Irish Political Parties throughout Time
21 - 42
Author: Laura Filardo

Ethnic Outbidding and Party Modernization: Understanding the Democratic
Unionist Party's Electoral Success in the Post-Agreement Environment
43 - 61
Authors: Cathy Gormley-Heenan; Roger Macginty

Peace Building and Participation in Northern Ireland: Local Social Movements
and the Policy Process since the "Good Friday" Agreement
63 - 80
Authors: Nicholas Acheson; Carl Milofsky

Escaping the Cage of Ethno-National Conflict in Northern Ireland? The
Importance of Transnational Networks
81 - 99
Authors: Liam O'dowd; Cathal Mccall

How has Peace Changed the Northern Irish Political Economy?
101 - 118
Author: Denis O'hearn

The Changing Housing System in Northern Ireland 1998-2007
119 - 136
Author: Chris Paris

Post-conflict Transformation: The Process of Institutional Legitimation of
the Police in Northern Ireland
137 - 157
Author: Jane Gordon

Loyalist Paramilitary Violence after the Belfast Agreement
159 - 176
Author: Christina Steenkamp

Truth, Justice and Dealing with the Legacy of the Past in Northern Ireland,
1998-2008
177 - 193
Authors: Patricia Lundy; Mark Mcgovern

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Forwarded on behalf of
Prof. Evan Radcliffe, Chair of Irish Studies Search Committee, English
Dept., Villanova University

Villanova University seeks a Director for its Irish Studies Program
(http://www.villanova.edu/artsci/irishstudies/), at the rank of =
associate or
full professor, beginning Fall 2009.=A0 Academic field is open, but =
because of
the program=B9s strong ties to Irish literature, candidates should have =
an
excellent knowledge of the Irish literary world.=A0 The director will =
hold an
appointment in the appropriate academic department.=A0 Candidates should =
have
the appropriate terminal degree or a record of distinguished =
professional
activity, as well as administrative experience and a history of =
excellent
publication and teaching.=A0 Along with administration and scholarship,
responsibilities include teaching four courses per year.=A0 A full =
description
of the position is available at
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tor
.htm.

Initial appointment as director is for five years and is renewable.=A0 =
Send
letter of application, vita, and recent writing sample, as well as at =
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Villanova, PA 19085-1699, by Oct. 6, 2008; review of applications will =
begin
on Oct. 6 and continue until the position is filled.=A0 Applications =
will be
acknowledged by letter.

Villanova University is a Catholic university sponsored by the =
Augustinian
order.=A0 An AA/EEO employer, Villanova seeks a diverse faculty =
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James A. Lundon [at] Yahoo! [jameslundon[at]yahoo.co.uk]

Could anyone point me in the direction of any studies (academic papers,
books etc) on attitudes to the Irish in British newspapers over the last
50/60 years?

I don't want a study of the media coverage of Ireland in the 19th century
for example.

A discussion has occurred in another e-forum I'm part of
regarding the stunning success of the recently launched Irish
Daily Mail in these parts. A few people (me included) countered
that these newspapers, along with all the red tops, have been/are
virulently anti-Irish and that the owners of these organs must be
pinching themselves at how popular their products are amongst the
self-same people they were less than fair about in the very
recent past.

If you feel that this is a valid diaspora question, please edit
the above as appropriate and pass along to the main list.

With many & sincere thanks,

James

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=20
>> I have pasted in the TOC below. Copy & Paste has played havoc with =
the
>> Irish Language elements, which I have corrected as best I can. Those
>> elements are interesting in themselves, of course - as international
>> signifiers of Irishness. The proverb in Ciar?n ? h?gartaigh's title =
would
>> mean something like, People live in each other's shadows. Another =
Irish
>> signifier in his Editorial is a glum quote from Louis MacNeice.

This question of spelling conventions of a kind not found in standard =
English is a real problem and reflects the continuing Anglo-American =
bias of the internet in general and searchable electronic publications =
in particular. I spell my name with the Irish diacritics - in this case, =
what we call the s=EDne fada or acute accent (Mac =C9inr=ED, not Mac =
Einri). I have only gradually realised that a significant number of =
references and citations will not come up if you search on Mac Einri =
only. In fact, different results will be returned depending on whether =
one uses one of four possible variations: Mac Einri, Mac =C9inr=ED, =
MacEinri and Mac=C9inr=ED in one of the specialist databases or, say, =
Google Books or Google Scholar

As we are now having the equivalent of the RAE (following the =
time-honoured custom, whereby we always wait the the British to screw =
something up, then import it ourselves!) imposed upon us, by scientists =
who don't understand the way in which humanities and social sciences =
people publish anyway, this is no small matter.

Piaras

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Dear James,

Simon Potter (at NUI Galway) and Patrick Maume are worth contacting about
this. Simon (editor of Newspapers and Empire in Ireland and Britain) is a
great authority on the press in these islands and the British Empire and
would be very helpful as I am sure Patrick would be also.

Trust this helps.

Best wishes,
Donal

> James A. Lundon [at] Yahoo! [jameslundon[at]yahoo.co.uk]
>
> Could anyone point me in the direction of any studies (academic papers,
> books etc) on attitudes to the Irish in British newspapers over the last
> 50/60 years?
>
> I don't want a study of the media coverage of Ireland in the 19th century
> for example.
>
> A discussion has occurred in another e-forum I'm part of
> regarding the stunning success of the recently launched Irish
> Daily Mail in these parts. A few people (me included) countered
> that these newspapers, along with all the red tops, have been/are
> virulently anti-Irish and that the owners of these organs must be
> pinching themselves at how popular their products are amongst the
> self-same people they were less than fair about in the very
> recent past.
>
> If you feel that this is a valid diaspora question, please edit
> the above as appropriate and pass along to the main list.
>
> With many & sincere thanks,
>
> James
>

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James - you do know that they cover 'hot' topics quite differently in
their Irish and UK versions? For instance, their reviews and other
coverage of Ken Loach's win at Cannes with 'The Wind that Shakes the
Barley' were written up totally differently, according to how they
perceived their territorial readerships would respond.

Best

Ruth Barton


On Aug 9, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:

> James A. Lundon [at] Yahoo! [jameslundon[at]yahoo.co.uk]
>
> Could anyone point me in the direction of any studies (academic
> papers,
> books etc) on attitudes to the Irish in British newspapers over the
> last
> 50/60 years?
>
> I don't want a study of the media coverage of Ireland in the 19th
> century
> for example.
>
> A discussion has occurred in another e-forum I'm part of
> regarding the stunning success of the recently launched Irish
> Daily Mail in these parts. A few people (me included) countered
> that these newspapers, along with all the red tops, have been/are
> virulently anti-Irish and that the owners of these organs must be
> pinching themselves at how popular their products are amongst the
> self-same people they were less than fair about in the very
> recent past.
>
> If you feel that this is a valid diaspora question, please edit
> the above as appropriate and pass along to the main list.
>
> With many & sincere thanks,
>
> James
>

Department of Film Studies
School of Drama, Film and Music
Samuel Beckett Centre
Trinity College Dublin
Dublin 2

Tel: 353-1-8962961
http://www.tcd.ie/Drama/film.php

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That does look very interesting - thanks for the reference.

When I first arrived in Dublin, I used to see The History of Accountancy =
in
Ireland everywhere in used bookstores, and mocked what seemed to be the m=
ost
boring book title in Irish history. Much later, writing a bio of M Colli=
ns, I
found it v useful, and indeed interesting in its own right. =20

Plus, my impression is that there's money in them thar accontants - it's =
a
well-funded subject (grad students take note).

Peter Hart

Quoting Elizabeth Malcolm :

> Dymphna's quotation from John Donne does appear to approximate the mean=
ing of
> the
> Irish proverb under discussion. However, what Donne wrote was: 'No man =
is an
> Island,
> entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the =
main.
> Any
> man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind...' (Devoti=
ons,
> XVII).
>=20
> Elizabeth
> --------------------------------------------
> > Just a comment on your translation, Paddy, that 'The proverb in Ciar=EF=
=BF=BDn
> =EF=BF=BD
> > h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh's title would
> > mean something like, People live in each other's shadows.' The word s=
cath
> > here is used in the sense of 'protection': people live under the
> protection
> > of each other'. The English equivalent of the proverb is probably 'No=
man
> is
> > an island onto himself'. The Irish proverb is often used in acknowled=
ging
> > group work-such as our own!
> >
> > On 8/6/08, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:
> >>
> >> The journal Accounting, Business & Financial History has a tradition=
of
> >> creating country-based special issues with the expressed aim of
> >> 'internationalising' the study of accounting history. Countries and
> >> accounting locales which have been the subject of these special issu=
es
> >> include France (1997, 2001), the United States (2000), Japan (2001),
> Spain
> >> (2002), China (2003), the 'German language arena' (2005) and Italy
> (2007).
> >>
> >> Accounting, Business & Financial History, Volume 18 Issue 1 2008 was=
an
> >> Ireland special issue, edited by
> >> Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh
> >> UCD School of Business, University College Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
> >>
> >> I have pasted in the TOC below. Copy & Paste has played havoc with =
the
> >> Irish Language elements, which I have corrected as best I can. Thos=
e
> >> elements are interesting in themselves, of course - as international
> >> signifiers of Irishness. The proverb in Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=
=BF=BDgartaigh's title
> would
> >> mean something like, People live in each other's shadows. Another I=
rish
> >> signifier in his Editorial is a glum quote from Louis MacNeice.
> >>
> >> Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh has also compiled a data=
base of accounting and
> >> corporate
> >> governance archives in the National Archives of Ireland (Bishop Stre=
et,
> >> Dublin) and the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland (PRONI, Bel=
fast)
> -
> >> available at
> >> http://webpages.dcu.ie/~ohogartc/busarchivesinfo.htm
> >>
> >> This special issue of Accounting, Business & Financial History is fu=
ll of
> >> interest. Margaret =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh's article is very u=
seful. Of
> specific
> >> interest is Peter Clarke's article, with its suggestion that emigrat=
ing
> >> Irish people took with them book keeping skills. Keith Warnock find=
s
> >> something new to say about Joyce. With the suggestion that, in analy=
sing,
> >> 'Compile the budget for 16 June 1904', literary critics have perhaps
> >> heretofore known too little about accounting procedures.
> >>
> >> Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh and his colleagues are t=
o be congratulated.
> >>
> >> P.O'S.
> >>
> >> Editorials
> >> 'Ar scath a cheile a mhaireann na daoine' - shadow and shade in Iris=
h
> >> accounting history
> >> 1 =EF=BF=BD 6
> >> Author: Ciar=EF=BF=BDn =EF=BF=BD h=EF=BF=BDgartaigh
> >>
> >> Original Articles
> >>
> >> Irish accounting, business and financial history: a bibliographical =
essay
> >> 7 =EF=BF=BD 19
> >> Author: Margaret O Hgartaigh
> >>
> >> The teaching of bookkeeping in nineteenth-century Ireland
> >> 21 =EF=BF=BD 33
> >> Author: Peter Clarke
> >>
> >> 'Elevating the profession': the Institute of Chartered Accountants i=
n
> >> Ireland and the implementation of social closure strategies 1888-190=
9
> >> 35 =EF=BF=BD 59
> >> Author: Philip O'regan
> >>
> >> Irish voluntary hospitals: an examination of a theory of voluntary
> failure
> >> 61 =EF=BF=BD 80
> >> Authors: Geraldine Robbins; Irvine Lapsley
> >>
> >> Auditing Bloom, editing Joyce: accounting and accountability in Ulys=
ses
> >> 81 =EF=BF=BD 95
> >> Author: Keith Warnock
> >>
> >
>=20
>=20
> __________________________________________________
> Professor Elizabeth Malcolm
>=20
> Gerry Higgins Chair of Irish Studies
> School of Historical Studies ~ University of Melbourne ~ Victoria, 3010=
,
> AUSTRALIA
> Phone: +61-3-83443924 ~ Email: e.malcolm[at]unimelb.edu.au
>=20
> President
> Irish Studies Association of Australia and New Zealand (ISAANZ)
> Website: http://isaanz.org
> __________________________________________________
>=20

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My PhD thesis looked at 4 newspapers (Telegraph, Guardian, Sun and =
Mirror) in 1992 - you should be able to get it via the Irish Studies =
Centre, London Metropolitan University.

Sarah.
From: Patrick O'Sullivan=20
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 1:24 PM
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK=20
Subject: [IR-D] Coverage of the Irish in British newspapers


James A. Lundon [at] Yahoo! [jameslundon[at]yahoo.co.uk]=20

Could anyone point me in the direction of any studies (academic =
papers,
books etc) on attitudes to the Irish in British newspapers over the =
last
50/60 years?

I don't want a study of the media coverage of Ireland in the 19th =
century
for example.=20

A discussion has occurred in another e-forum I'm part of
regarding the stunning success of the recently launched Irish
Daily Mail in these parts. A few people (me included) countered
that these newspapers, along with all the red tops, have been/are
virulently anti-Irish and that the owners of these organs must be
pinching themselves at how popular their products are amongst the
self-same people they were less than fair about in the very
recent past.=20

If you feel that this is a valid diaspora question, please edit
the above as appropriate and pass along to the main list.

With many & sincere thanks,

James

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Burns-Bisogno, Louisa. CENSORING IRISH NATIONALISM: THE BRITISH,
IRISH AND AMERICAN SUPPRESSION OF REPUBLICAN IMAGES IN FILM AND
TELEVISION, 1909-1995. Jefferson, No. Carolina: McFarland & Co.,
1997.

Butler, David E. THE TROUBLE WITH REPORTING NORTHERN IRELAND: THE
BRITISH STATE, THE BROADCAST MEDIA, AND DOCUMENTARY REPORTAGE OF
THE CONFLICT. Aldershot: Avebury, 1995.

Curtis, Liz. IRELAND--THE PROPAGANDA WAR: THE MEDIA AND THE "BATTLE
FOR HEARTS AND MINDS." London: Pluto Press, 1984.

Greenslade, Roy. PRESS GANG: HOW NEWSPAPERS MAKE PROFITS FROM
PROPAGANDA. London: Macmillan, 2003.

Lashmar, Paul, and James Oliver. BRITAIN'S SECRET PROPAGANDA WAR.
London: Sutton Publishing, 1998.

Leigh, David, "Britain's security services and journalists: The
secret story," in BRITISH JOURNALISM REVIEW, 11, No. 2 (2000), 21-26

Miller, David. DON'T MENTION THE WAR: NORTHERN IRELAND PROPAGANDA
AND THE MEDIA. London: Pluto Press, 1994.

Parkinson, Alan F. ULSTER LOYALISM AND THE BRITISH MEDIA. Dublin:
Four Courts Press, 1998.

Rolston, Bill, and David Miller. WAR AND WORDS: THE NORTHERN
IRELAND MEDIA READER. Belfast: Beyond the Pale Publications, 1996.





>James A. Lundon [at] Yahoo! [jameslundon[at]yahoo.co.uk]
>
>Could anyone point me in the direction of any studies (academic papers,
>books etc) on attitudes to the Irish in British newspapers over the last
>50/60 years?
>
>I don't want a study of the media coverage of Ireland in the 19th century
>for example.
>
>A discussion has occurred in another e-forum I'm part of
>regarding the stunning success of the recently launched Irish
>Daily Mail in these parts. A few people (me included) countered
>that these newspapers, along with all the red tops, have been/are
>virulently anti-Irish and that the owners of these organs must be
>pinching themselves at how popular their products are amongst the
>self-same people they were less than fair about in the very
>recent past.
>
>If you feel that this is a valid diaspora question, please edit
>the above as appropriate and pass along to the main list.
>
>With many & sincere thanks,
>
>James

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From: Patrick Maume
One point which would be worth bearing in mind is that until the 1960s
there were actually tariffs on imported newspapers. These had been
imposed by the de Valera government in the early 1930s and had the
effect of cutting off most of what had been a fairly sizable
importation of English papers into Ireland. British papers were also
liable to be censored/prosecuted for publishing items (such as
advertisements for contraceptives) which were illegal in Ireland,
while on the other hand Irish newspapers circulating in Britain were
not supposed to publish advertisements for the Irish hospital Sweeps
lottery which was illegal in Britain.
The point about different editions is quite true. I have a relative
who gets the MAIL ON SUNDAY and when I visited her I was surprised to
see Peter Hitchens' column wasn't in it. On investigation I found out
Hitchens' column that Sunday had been a diatribe about the Good Friday
Agreement as sell-out and betrayal of British sovereignty in Northern
Ireland; obviously it was felt this was not likely to attract Irish
readers.
It is also the case that the MIRROR traditionally appealed to
Nationalists in Northern Ireland while the SUN was read by Unionists,
so this affected the content of their Northern editions. There is a
famous story, which may or may not be apocryphal, that one day after
the SAS shot 3 IRA men in the North somebody in Wapping pressed the
wrong button, so that the Dublin edition was headed something like
"The Sun salutes our brave boys for dealing with murderous terrorists"
while the Belfast edition informed its Shankill Road readers that this
was cold-blooded murder and "the Sun demands an enquiry". THe SUn in
Dublin has a reputation for being pretty green, just as in scotland it
tends to support the SNP.
THe SUn did not really have a presence in IReland until the
mid-1980s; I remember reading newspaper coverage of the Falklands War
which referrred to the Sun headlines and being puizzled as i had never
seen this paper. (I was living in Cork, so for all I know it may have
sold in Dublin, but it was still a striking difference.)
Bertie Aherne had a reputation for cultivating the red-top tabloids
as a means of bypassing the Dublin broadsheets (which tend to be
anti-Fianna Fail) and appealing to working-class readers. Soemone
should do a study of how they covered him. (He is also supposed to
have latched on very early to the potential popularity of HELLO
magazine when it made its appearance about 1989-90.)
LM Cullen's history of Eason's would be a good place to look for the
issues surrounding imported newspapers up to the mid-C20, as Eason's
were the main distributors.
I also know of some social conservatives who get the MAIL and the
TELEGRAPH as they feel they are more sympathetic to their religious
beliefs and associated 'morality' issues than the Irish papers.
This last is an interesting turn-up for the books as the Irish
Ireladn movement of the early twentieth century was very fearful of
the influx of British popular newspapers as a deleterious influence on
faith and fatherland. The big pro-censorship campaigns of 1911-12 and
the mid-1920s were primarily aimed at imported newspapers; their
better-known effects on literary censorship simply represented
fall-out.
Fr RS Devane produced a pamphlet on the imported press c.1950
(complaining that the tariffs were not high enough and that imported
papers and periodicals should be shut out altogether) which might be
worth looking at in this context.
Best wishes,
Patrick

On 8/11/08, Kerby Miller wrote:
> Burns-Bisogno, Louisa. CENSORING IRISH NATIONALISM: THE BRITISH,
> IRISH AND AMERICAN SUPPRESSION OF REPUBLICAN IMAGES IN FILM AND
> TELEVISION, 1909-1995. Jefferson, No. Carolina: McFarland & Co.,
> 1997.
>
> Butler, David E. THE TROUBLE WITH REPORTING NORTHERN IRELAND: THE
> BRITISH STATE, THE BROADCAST MEDIA, AND DOCUMENTARY REPORTAGE OF
> THE CONFLICT. Aldershot: Avebury, 1995.
>
> Curtis, Liz. IRELAND--THE PROPAGANDA WAR: THE MEDIA AND THE "BATTLE
> FOR HEARTS AND MINDS." London: Pluto Press, 1984.
>
> Greenslade, Roy. PRESS GANG: HOW NEWSPAPERS MAKE PROFITS FROM
> PROPAGANDA. London: Macmillan, 2003.
>
> Lashmar, Paul, and James Oliver. BRITAIN'S SECRET PROPAGANDA WAR.
> London: Sutton Publishing, 1998.
>
> Leigh, David, "Britain's security services and journalists: The
> secret story," in BRITISH JOURNALISM REVIEW, 11, No. 2 (2000), 21-26
>
> Miller, David. DON'T MENTION THE WAR: NORTHERN IRELAND PROPAGANDA
> AND THE MEDIA. London: Pluto Press, 1994.
>
> Parkinson, Alan F. ULSTER LOYALISM AND THE BRITISH MEDIA. Dublin:
> Four Courts Press, 1998.
>
> Rolston, Bill, and David Miller. WAR AND WORDS: THE NORTHERN
> IRELAND MEDIA READER. Belfast: Beyond the Pale Publications, 1996.
>
>
>
>
>
>>James A. Lundon [at] Yahoo! [jameslundon[at]yahoo.co.uk]
>>
>>Could anyone point me in the direction of any studies (academic papers,
>>books etc) on attitudes to the Irish in British newspapers over the last
>>50/60 years?
>>
>>I don't want a study of the media coverage of Ireland in the 19th century
>>for example.
>>
>>A discussion has occurred in another e-forum I'm part of
>>regarding the stunning success of the recently launched Irish
>>Daily Mail in these parts. A few people (me included) countered
>>that these newspapers, along with all the red tops, have been/are
>>virulently anti-Irish and that the owners of these organs must be
>>pinching themselves at how popular their products are amongst the
>>self-same people they were less than fair about in the very
>>recent past.
>>
>>If you feel that this is a valid diaspora question, please edit
>>the above as appropriate and pass along to the main list.
>>
>>With many & sincere thanks,
>>
>>James
>

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Piaras,

And I see no easy way round these issues...

If we go back to an issue we have discussed before, the apostrophe in
databases... A web search for 'apostrophe in databases' will turn up =
much
discussion, and suggestions for fixes and workarounds - within =
discussion
about each specific database type. For example...

http://www.plime.com/technology/l/51699/1/

'Having worked in databases and programmed a few I've seen the =
limitations
and workarounds. They aren't pretty. You either Dummyproof the entry
(Letters only! No Spaces!) and something like an apostrophe gets lost, =
or
you don't and the first secretary who puts in the record says "O Keefe" =
and
the second one puts in "O'Keefe" and the third puts in "OKeefe" which =
are
all different names.'=20

http://www.adventuresinsoftware.com/blog/?p=3D91

http://www.usgs.gov/faq/list_faq_by_category/get_answer.asp?id=3D788

And so on...

People like us work across different databases, and take material =
created in
one database into another database... Recently my own Bibliographic
database told me that I did not have a certain paper by O'Donoghue - I =
knew
that I did have it... I had copied and pasted the name O'Donoghue from =
a
reference on a web page.

On investigation I found that at least three different ASCII Character =
Codes
are used to indicate an apostrophe, sometimes as part of the fixes and
workarounds, mentioned earlier: these are chr(39), chr(96) CHR(146).

My Bibliographic database would list
O chr(39)Donoghue,
O chr(96)Donoghue
O CHR(146)Donoghue.

As three different names.

So, I tidied up all my author names beginning O'. There are a lot of =
them.

I'll contact the Irish History Online team, and see if they have any
thoughts.

P.O'S.




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Of MacEinri, Piaras
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citations

=20
>> I have pasted in the TOC below. Copy & Paste has played havoc with =
the
>> Irish Language elements, which I have corrected as best I can. Those
>> elements are interesting in themselves, of course - as international
>> signifiers of Irishness. The proverb in Ciar?n ? h?gartaigh's title
would
>> mean something like, People live in each other's shadows. Another =
Irish
>> signifier in his Editorial is a glum quote from Louis MacNeice.

This question of spelling conventions of a kind not found in standard
English is a real problem and reflects the continuing Anglo-American =
bias of
the internet in general and searchable electronic publications in
particular. I spell my name with the Irish diacritics - in this case, =
what
we call the s=EDne fada or acute accent (Mac =C9inr=ED, not Mac Einri). =
I have
only gradually realised that a significant number of references and
citations will not come up if you search on Mac Einri only. In fact,
different results will be returned depending on whether one uses one of =
four
possible variations: Mac Einri, Mac =C9inr=ED, MacEinri and Mac=C9inr=ED =
in one of
the specialist databases or, say, Google Books or Google Scholar

As we are now having the equivalent of the RAE (following the =
time-honoured
custom, whereby we always wait the the British to screw something up, =
then
import it ourselves!) imposed upon us, by scientists who don't =
understand
the way in which humanities and social sciences people publish anyway, =
this
is no small matter.

Piaras

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REVIEW:

H-NET BOOK REVIEW
Published by H-Albion[at]h-net.msu.edu (August 2008)

Maria Luddy. _Prostitution and Irish Society, 1800-1940_. Cambridge:
Cambridge University Press, 2008. viii + 352 pp. Illustrations, maps,
charts, tables, notes, bibliography, index. $80.00 (cloth), ISBN
0-521-88241-9; $27.00 (paper), 0-521-70905-9.

Reviewed for H-Albion by Cliona Murphy, Department of History,
California State University Bakersfield

Maria Luddy's book _Prostitution and Irish Society, 1800-1940_ is, to =
use a
clich=E9, a groundbreaking work. Nothing like this study has previously =
been
published in Irish historiography. While publications in both Irish =
social
history and women's history have proliferated in the last thirty years, =
the
topic of prostitution has remained, on the whole, untouched (apart from
previous work by Luddy on "The Wrens of the Curragh," a colony of
prostitutes who lived in the environs of the British military camp in =
county
Kildare, Ireland). Luddy is well qualified to write this book, having
written and edited numerous books on Irish women, Irish women's =
documentary
history, and religious and philanthropic organizations. She is =
essentially
the personification (along with earlier pioneers Margaret Mac Curtain =
and
Mary Cullen, who continue to make significant contributions) and =
repository
of the development of Irish women's history since the late 1970s. =
Indeed,
among her numerous projects, she headed a government-funded team of
historians in the late 1990s who identified fourteen thousand =
collections of
sources (public and private, lay and religious) concerning women in =
Irish
history throughout the island of Ireland. In _Prostitution and Irish
Society_, she takes on the enormous challenge of writing the uncharted
history of a pervasive group that have, up to now, been either ignored =
or
briefly alluded to in passing. She succeeds in the task because of her =
great
expertise in Irish and women's history and her extensive archival =
knowledge.

It is clear that this book is based on years of research. It is crammed =
with
data, statistics, and opinions that are quite staggering and that wipe =
away
the widely held image of "Holy Ireland." Her abundance of sources, which
includes official reports and investigations, censuses, church records,
housing records, newspapers articles, and reports of charity rescue =
groups,
also wipes away the idea that prostitutes are "hidden from history," and
from historians. Luddy finds the evidence that they were not only there, =
but
they were also everywhere from the big metropolises to small towns and
villages. They were in organized brothels, in the back of tenements, =
outside
military barracks, on particular sides of main streets, and in one-woman
operations in the countryside. They were present in courtrooms (some of =
them
repeatedly), gaols, lock hospitals, rescue shelters, laundries, county
hospitals, and workhouses, as well as represented in literary works
throughout the period. This demographic study meticulously shows where
prostitutes resided, going into such detail as to give street names and
numbers. While Luddy finds prostitutes all over Ireland, she also shows =
how
prostitutes were gradually pushed into certain areas of larger cities =
and
towns in Ireland, including the now infamous Monto District in Dublin.

Concerns about venereal disease, loose morals, underage marriage, and =
white
slave traffic weave their way throughout the book. The language and the
context change as the reader moves into the twentieth century, as fears =
are
expressed about the dangers and temptations of the cinema, motorcar, and
dance hall. But the fears are the same nonetheless. Luddy argues =
throughout
that the concern was rarely for the prostitute, but mostly for the =
impact
she had on her surroundings, both local and national. Depending on who =
was
doing the worrying and when, concern was expressed for British soldiers,
Irish men, young girls (as yet uncontaminated by the act or by the =
disease),
and Irish middle-class women who may have been affected by laws trying =
to
restrict the movements, activities, and diseases of the prostitutes =
(such as
the Contagious Diseases Acts).

As well as being a presence all over the country, as Luddy illustrates
throughout the book, prostitution can be linked to central themes in =
modern
Irish history, including British imperialism, Irish nationalism, the =
Potato
Famine, the institutions of the Catholic and Protestant churches, the =
fight
for women's suffrage, and the formative decades of the Irish Free State. =
She
has an intriguing section in which she discusses how immorality and
prostitution were perceived by nationalists as being a consequence of
imperial rule, and an anathema to all things Irish. Their misperception
becomes evident in the latter part of her book in which she examines the
continuation of prostitution in independent Ireland. Likewise, she =
argues
that the suffragists, too, exploited the institution of prostitution for
their own gain; they used the plight of prostitutes symbolically to
demonstrate their own limitations and legal restrictions. (This is a =
very
interesting perspective as it contributes to the historiographical =
debate on
the limitations of the women's suffrage movement in Ireland, as =
elsewhere,
especially its matriarchal attitude and class-conscious aloofness.) =
However,
neither the nationalists nor the suffragists, according to Luddy, were
concerned with the root cause of prostitution. Perhaps, not all =
historians
of the Irish suffragists might agree here, but it is a provocative idea. =
It
is almost as if Luddy is suggesting that the nationalists and =
suffragists
were "pimping" the topic to their own advantage and to make their own =
case.

Not only is she knowledgeable, but she also is forceful. Luddy is not =
afraid
to criticize others who have skirted around related areas of "fallen =
women"
and their "rescuers," especially with regard to the (now well =
publicized)
topic of the Magdalen Asylums (lay and religious shelters that took in
"damaged" or "disgraced" girls and women who worked, often for free, in
laundries and other enterprises). Over the last fifteen years or so, =
these
institutions have inspired a number of varying publications, television
documentaries, and a movie (_The Magdalen Sisters_ [2002]). Luddy is not
hesitant in dismissing generalizations in some portrayals, which are =
based
on a few institutions in a particular time period. Nor is she reticent =
about
disagreeing with the conclusions and perceptions of the media, the =
general
public, and other historians on this topic, in some cases redeeming some
asylums and their administrators.

The topic of male prostitution in this period is not discussed, nor is =
the
topic of prostitution in the Irish diaspora. The former may be difficult
since Luddy's sources are mostly connected to groups and individuals =
who, in
one way or another, dealt with women. Perhaps, given the reticence, =
denial,
and illegality of homosexuality, there may be many fewer sources for
historians to investigate male prostitution in this time period. =
Admittedly,
the latter, prostitutes in the diaspora, do not come within the =
boundaries
of her study "Irish society"; however, such an investigation would be an
interesting extension and complement to her work.

This is a very dense book that is full of references, citations, and
sources. It is this density that makes it so valuable, providing =
numerous
spin-off topics for future researchers and doctoral students who may be
inspired by various geographic, thematic, and chronological perspectives
that are woven throughout this work. Luddy's _Prostitution and Irish
Society_ is yet another important contribution to Irish historiography =
by
one who has already contributed so much, and, undoubtedly, it has opened =
the
door to further work in this area.



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hbooks[at]mail.h-net.msu.edu.

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Irish-Scottish Women's History Conference
Call For Papers
April 24/25 2009
Trinity College Dublin

The Women's History Association of Ireland (WHAI) and Women's History
Scotland (WHS) announce the first joint Irish-Scottish Women's History
conference to be held on the 24th/25th April 2009 in Trinity College Dublin.

The conference will be hosted by the Centre for Gender and Women's Studies
(CGWS), School of Histories and Humanities, Trinity College Dublin under the
auspices of the Irish Scottish Academic Initiative.

The themes of the conference are: religion, rebellions and migration.
Paper proposals should indicate under which theme they wish to be
considered. Please send paper proposals by December 1, 2008 to Dr. Maryann
Valiulis, President, WHAI at maryann.valiulis[at]tcd.ie Proposals should be
no longer than 250 words.


All are welcome to apply.

WHS Convenor: Lynn Abrams
www.womenshistoryscotland.org

WHAI President: Maryann Valiulis
www.whai.ie


regards
Mary

--
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I edited the Wikipedia page regarding the 1916 Easter Rising to
include 'Fianna =C9ireann' and the 'Hibernian Rifles' as belligerents in
the rising (i,e, combatants) another editor has challenged this and
has claimed there is no reliable source to prove that they took part
in the rising as combatants. I have in my possession a copy of the
personal statements of Bob Holland (who took part in the rising and
was in Frongoch) and this specifically says that the Fianna took part
in the Magazine Fort raid in Phoenix Park - however, as this hasn't
been published it is not 'acceptable' as a verifiable source (which I
can understand). I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a
couple of reference's, i.e. title, page etc. to show the role of the
Fianna and also of the Hibernian Rifles in the rising.

I'm afraid that most of my books are packed a way in boxes at present
as we are in the process of decorating the house otherwise I would
hunt through them myself.

Thanks
Muiris

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University of Sunderland
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Faculty of Education & Society

Fixed term until 30th September 2011
=A328,290 - =A333,780 per annum

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Sunderland, in collaboration with Durham University. The project aims to
investigate the literary and cultural resonance of consumer culture in
Ireland during the years between the Famine of 1848 and the =
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opportunity to recruit two, three year PhD studentships.

The successful candidate will join the core team, based at the =
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the
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of
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preparation of an exhibition of advertising material of the period. You =
will
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From: Patrick Maume
JJ Walsh's RECOLLECTIONS OF AN IRISH REBEL published in the mid-1940s
mentions that he himself was in the Hibernian Rifles and fought in
Easter Week; I believe he has a couple of other details about them.
Eoin Neeson's strange book MYTHS OF EASTER 1916 also mentions the
Hibernian Rifles though he mistakenly associates them with Joe
Devlin's Board of Erin AOH whereas in fact they were the military wing
of the smaller separatist Irish-American Alliance faction (one of many
howlers and blunders in Neeson; at one point he actually misrepresents
the whole course of the First World War to suit his argument, claiming
the Battle of Verdun was a german offensive aimed at capturing Paris
and ending the war, rather than a diversionary attack aimed at
breaking down the french army by attrition).
Biographies of Countess Markievicz should have some reference to
Fianna participation.
Best wishes,
Patrick

On 8/13/08, Muiris Mag Ualghairg wrote:
> I edited the Wikipedia page regarding the 1916 Easter Rising to
> include 'Fianna =C9ireann' and the 'Hibernian Rifles' as belligerents in
> the rising (i,e, combatants) another editor has challenged this and
> has claimed there is no reliable source to prove that they took part
> in the rising as combatants. I have in my possession a copy of the
> personal statements of Bob Holland (who took part in the rising and
> was in Frongoch) and this specifically says that the Fianna took part
> in the Magazine Fort raid in Phoenix Park - however, as this hasn't
> been published it is not 'acceptable' as a verifiable source (which I
> can understand). I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a
> couple of reference's, i.e. title, page etc. to show the role of the
> Fianna and also of the Hibernian Rifles in the rising.
>
> I'm afraid that most of my books are packed a way in boxes at present
> as we are in the process of decorating the house otherwise I would
> hunt through them myself.
>
> Thanks
> Muiris
>

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As noted in these very pages, the latest IHS includes Marnie Hay's excell=
ent
article on the Fianna 1909-16.

Peter Hart

Quoting Patrick Maume :

> From: Patrick Maume
> JJ Walsh's RECOLLECTIONS OF AN IRISH REBEL published in the mid-1940s
> mentions that he himself was in the Hibernian Rifles and fought in
> Easter Week; I believe he has a couple of other details about them.
> Eoin Neeson's strange book MYTHS OF EASTER 1916 also mentions the
> Hibernian Rifles though he mistakenly associates them with Joe
> Devlin's Board of Erin AOH whereas in fact they were the military wing
> of the smaller separatist Irish-American Alliance faction (one of many
> howlers and blunders in Neeson; at one point he actually misrepresents
> the whole course of the First World War to suit his argument, claiming
> the Battle of Verdun was a german offensive aimed at capturing Paris
> and ending the war, rather than a diversionary attack aimed at
> breaking down the french army by attrition).
> Biographies of Countess Markievicz should have some reference to
> Fianna participation.
> Best wishes,
> Patrick
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> On 8/13/08, Muiris Mag Ualghairg wrote:
> > I edited the Wikipedia page regarding the 1916 Easter Rising to
> > include 'Fianna =C9ireann' and the 'Hibernian Rifles' as belligerents=
in
> > the rising (i,e, combatants) another editor has challenged this and
> > has claimed there is no reliable source to prove that they took part
> > in the rising as combatants. I have in my possession a copy of the
> > personal statements of Bob Holland (who took part in the rising and
> > was in Frongoch) and this specifically says that the Fianna took part
> > in the Magazine Fort raid in Phoenix Park - however, as this hasn't
> > been published it is not 'acceptable' as a verifiable source (which I
> > can understand). I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a
> > couple of reference's, i.e. title, page etc. to show the role of the
> > Fianna and also of the Hibernian Rifles in the rising.
> >
> > I'm afraid that most of my books are packed a way in boxes at present
> > as we are in the process of decorating the house otherwise I would
> > hunt through them myself.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Muiris
> >
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