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7 August 2015 01:03  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 00:03:08 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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If there was any consensus, it was that Jensen was and is wrong. I criticized his thesis in a footnote in my book, "The Irish Bridget." I found NINA ads in my research and many other scholars found them in their researchas well. Kerby Miller was always correct.
Best,
Peggy
____________________________________
Margaret Lynch-Brennan, Ph.D.
NYS Education Dept., Retired, and
Independent Scholar

---- Bill Mulligan wrote:
> HNN (History News Network) has picked up on the recent Journal of Social
> History article rebutting Richard Jensen's article on discrimination against
> the Irish.
>
>
>
> http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147
>
>
>
> Professor Jensen has replied to the young author on HNN - she is, according
> to most accounts, a high school student. Members can judge the
> appropriateness of Prof. Jensen tone in his response.
>
>
>
> In his reply Jensen claims his view is a "consensus" among scholars and
> cites "Adult historians" like Don MacRaild who agree with him. This does
> not match up well with my recollections of the discussion here some time ago
> or my own work.
>
>
>
> What think you all?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> William H. Mulligan, Jr.
>
> Professor of History
>
> MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012
>
> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]
>
> Murray State University
>
> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
>
> office phone 1-270-809-6571
>
> dept phone 1-270-809-2231
>
> fax 1-270-809-6587
>
>
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7 August 2015 03:55  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 02:55:43 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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Agreed. Came across them in New Orleans newspaper and now with smarter
search engines more will be found. Wholesale blanket statements as Jensen
put forth rarely ever are correct.
Laura

On 8/6/15, 7:03 PM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Margaret
Lynch-Brennan" wrote:

>If there was any consensus, it was that Jensen was and is wrong. I
>criticized his thesis in a footnote in my book, "The Irish Bridget." I
>found NINA ads in my research and many other scholars found them in their
>researchas well. Kerby Miller was always correct.
>Best,
>Peggy
>____________________________________
>Margaret Lynch-Brennan, Ph.D.
>NYS Education Dept., Retired, and
>Independent Scholar
>
>---- Bill Mulligan wrote:
>> HNN (History News Network) has picked up on the recent Journal of Social
>> History article rebutting Richard Jensen's article on discrimination
>>against
>> the Irish.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Professor Jensen has replied to the young author on HNN - she is,
>>according
>> to most accounts, a high school student. Members can judge the
>> appropriateness of Prof. Jensen tone in his response.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> In his reply Jensen claims his view is a "consensus" among scholars and
>> cites "Adult historians" like Don MacRaild who agree with him. This
>>does
>> not match up well with my recollections of the discussion here some
>>time ago
>> or my own work.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> What think you all?
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> William H. Mulligan, Jr.
>>=20
>> Professor of History
>>=20
>> MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012
>>=20
>> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]
>>=20
>> Murray State University
>>=20
>> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
>>=20
>> office phone 1-270-809-6571
>>=20
>> dept phone 1-270-809-2231
>>=20
>> fax 1-270-809-6587
>>=20
>> =20
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7 August 2015 10:48  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 09:48:20 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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Jensen's thesis is a "Consensus" view, only in the sense that he continues the Hofstadter/Hartz historiographical school that emphasized American exceptionalism and the lack of socio-economic conflict. But I'm pretty sure that isn't what he meant.

regards,
bpm

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David M. Emmons"
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 6:34:34 PM
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Jensen Revisited

Bill is right--and Kerby heroically right. Jensen's is not a "consensus view" or even close.

Dave Emmons

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From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Bill Mulligan [billmulligan[at]MURRAY-KY.NET]
Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 2:14 PM
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Jensen Revisited

HNN (History News Network) has picked up on the recent Journal of Social
History article rebutting Richard Jensen's article on discrimination against
the Irish.



http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147



Professor Jensen has replied to the young author on HNN - she is, according
to most accounts, a high school student. Members can judge the
appropriateness of Prof. Jensen tone in his response.



In his reply Jensen claims his view is a "consensus" among scholars and
cites "Adult historians" like Don MacRaild who agree with him. This does
not match up well with my recollections of the discussion here some time ago
or my own work.



What think you all?



Bill





William H. Mulligan, Jr.

Professor of History

MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012

Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]

Murray State University

Murray KY 42071-3341 USA

office phone 1-270-809-6571

dept phone 1-270-809-2231

fax 1-270-809-6587
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7 August 2015 11:28  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 10:28:46 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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From Irish Central an interesting array of photocopies of old
newspapers with the NINA 'advisories':


“No Irish Need Apply” signs found by readers from US to Australia

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/Real-life-No-Irish-Need-Apply-examples-found-by-readers-from-the-US-to-Australia-.html

Carmel

On 8/6/2015 4:14 PM, Bill Mulligan wrote:
> HNN (History News Network) has picked up on the recent Journal of Social
> History article rebutting Richard Jensen's article on discrimination against
> the Irish.
>
>
>
> http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147
>
>
>
> Professor Jensen has replied to the young author on HNN - she is, according
> to most accounts, a high school student. Members can judge the
> appropriateness of Prof. Jensen tone in his response.
>
>
>
> In his reply Jensen claims his view is a "consensus" among scholars and
> cites "Adult historians" like Don MacRaild who agree with him. This does
> not match up well with my recollections of the discussion here some time ago
> or my own work.
>
>
>
> What think you all?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> William H. Mulligan, Jr.
>
> Professor of History
>
> MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012
>
> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]
>
> Murray State University
>
> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
>
> office phone 1-270-809-6571
>
> dept phone 1-270-809-2231
>
> fax 1-270-809-6587
>
>



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7 August 2015 15:15  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:15:23 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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Agreed, but cautioning us against chauvinistic mythologies was never
Jensen=B9s primary concern, although it was an effective pseudo-liberal
camouflage for a very different ideological and political agenda.

BTW, don=B9t all ethnic groups, in varying degrees and with varying degrees
of justification, embrace such communal stories? Certainly, the
=B3Scotch-Irish=B2 in America and the Protestant unionists of Ulster have d=
one
so, although revisionist critics of Irish and Irish-American nationalism
generally overlook it.

Kerby Miller

On 8/6/15, 9:28 PM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Matthew
Barlow" wrote:

>Jensen has always defended his thesis like a pit bull. I made the mistake
>of challenging him on the H-Ethnic listserv once. He just devolved into
>personal insults.=20
>
>He is wrong about the NINA signs. But I'm not sure he's wrong about the
>Irish American myth of oppression. I get students in my class who talk
>about the stories their families tell of being oppressed up to today,
>despite being comfortably middle class and all the Irish American
>successes. We, as in the Irish of the diaspora, like these stories. I
>think Jensen's value lies in the cautioning against this mythology.
>
>Matthew Barlow=20
>University of North Alabama.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Margaret Lynch-Brennan
>> wrote:
>>=20
>> If there was any consensus, it was that Jensen was and is wrong. I
>>criticized his thesis in a footnote in my book, "The Irish Bridget." I
>>found NINA ads in my research and many other scholars found them in
>>their researchas well. Kerby Miller was always correct.
>> Best,
>> Peggy
>> ____________________________________
>> Margaret Lynch-Brennan, Ph.D.
>> NYS Education Dept., Retired, and
>> Independent Scholar
>>=20
>> ---- Bill Mulligan wrote:
>>> HNN (History News Network) has picked up on the recent Journal of
>>>Social
>>> History article rebutting Richard Jensen's article on discrimination
>>>against
>>> the Irish.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Professor Jensen has replied to the young author on HNN - she is,
>>>according
>>> to most accounts, a high school student. Members can judge the
>>> appropriateness of Prof. Jensen tone in his response.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> In his reply Jensen claims his view is a "consensus" among scholars and
>>> cites "Adult historians" like Don MacRaild who agree with him. This
>>>does
>>> not match up well with my recollections of the discussion here some
>>>time ago
>>> or my own work.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> What think you all?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Bill
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> William H. Mulligan, Jr.
>>>=20
>>> Professor of History
>>>=20
>>> MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012
>>>=20
>>> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]
>>>=20
>>> Murray State University
>>>=20
>>> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
>>>=20
>>> office phone 1-270-809-6571
>>>=20
>>> dept phone 1-270-809-2231
>>>=20
>>> fax 1-270-809-6587
>>>=20
>>>=20
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7 August 2015 15:28  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 14:28:07 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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I=B9ve known (unfortunately) a number of right-wingers who have become
experts in distorting arguments and perverting or ignoring objective
evidence. Sometimes I=B9ve wondered if they all went to the same training
camp to learn their rhetorical techniques. Jensen should have been
ignored from the beginning.

I=B9ve also concluded that the goal of such people is not to pursue =B3trut=
h=B2
but rather to lay down politically- and ideologically-determined
=B3markers=B2, which those who share their points of view can cite as
=B3authoritative,=B2 while those who don=B9t have the time or will to chall=
enge
them assume (wrongly) that the =B3markers=B2 were based on real research an=
d
were set forth in good faith, and those who disagree will be forced to
waste enormous amounts of time and energy to disprove them=8Band for their
pains will be attacked as =B3traditionalists=B2 or =B3ethnic chauvinists=B2=
(or,
in Ireland, as =B3Provo-symps=B2) or some such.

It=B9s a viciously clever game, and we=B9re suckers for playing it by Jense=
n=B9s
rules. Rebecca Fried could make her invaluable contribution because, as
an innocent outsider, she didn=B9t know or feel that she had to do so.

Kerby

On 8/6/15, 10:29 PM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Bill
Mulligan"
wrote:

>On HNN I responded to Professor jensen and pointed out his view is not a
>consensus among scholars aNd cited the discussion here. His response is
>below -- essentially stating that those of us on this list are
>non-academics.
>
>
>Richard Jensen wrote, in response to Bill Mulligan:
>
>Miss Fried reviewed published scholarly studies and concludes: "In short,
>the
>factual claims underlying Jensen=B9s
>arguments about NINA-restricted advertising, if not the conclusions that
>Jensen
>draws from those claims, are typically accepted as true. Jensen=B9s
>conclusions about
>these facts have
>coalesced into something like a =B3consensus=B2 view." So Mulligan is now
>saying she is
>all wrong. He is referring to an old discussion by non-academics who
>indeed still
>largely cling to the myth.
>Richard Jensen
>
>William H. Mulligan, Jr.
>Professor of History
>Murray State University
>Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
>1-270-809-6571 (phone)
>1-270-809-6587 (fax)
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7 August 2015 20:42  
  
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:42:36 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Looking for information on Sean P Keating
  
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From: Patrick Maume
As a longstanding list member, I thought the list might be the place to
go for help on a particular Irish-American history issue which has arisen
for me.

I work for the Royal Irish Academy's DICTIONARY OF IRISH BIOGRAPHY and
have recently been asked to do the entry on Sean P Keating (1903-76), an
Old IRA man from Kanturk who was active in the United Counties Association
of New York, a founder and president of the New York Irish Institute which
raised funds for Irish-based cultural bodies.

He held various offices (including Deputy Mayor) under Mayors O'Dwyer,
Impellittieri and Wagner before being appointed Regional Supervisor of the
Postal Service by President Kennedy.

I thought some of the American-based members of the list might be able to
advise me on how to go about researching him, given that I am Irish-based.
For example:

Can anyone recommend biographies of Wagner or the other relevant mayors in
which Keating might feature? (I know Bill and Paul O'Dwyer both wrote
memoirs but I haven't checked them yet).

Keating's Wikipedia page cites an oral-history testimony he gave to
Columbia University. Does anyone know whether this material is available
in print or online anywhere? If not could I gain access to it by writing
to Columbia, and if so how should I go about this?
Thanks in advance for your help,
Patrick Maume
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12 August 2015 19:03  
  
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:03:55 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited
  
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I read Richard Jensen's article 3 or 4 years ago because it related=C2=A0to=
a section of my dissertation that was on John F. Poole's song "No Irish Ne=
ed Apply."=C2=A0=C2=A0It occurred quite early on that the title was=C2=A0to=
o broad=C2=A0because the scope of article related only to street signs.=C2=
=A0 That struck me as a significant discrepancy and an error.=C2=A0=20
As=C2=A0I searched newspaper databases, I found NINA employment ads but=C2=
=A0was surprised=C2=A0there weren't=C2=A0quite a few=C2=A0more.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
However,=C2=A0subsequent searches=C2=A0found many, many ads that excluded I=
rish via positive preferences for others, such as "Protestant=C2=A0Only," "=
American, Canadian, German only," "American, English, Scottish, Welsh only,=
etc.
Later, I considered=C2=A0that a window sign represented an excellent opport=
unity for a=C2=A0scorned person to achieve immediate retribution.=C2=A0 Pic=
k up a rock and heave it at the sign.=C2=A0 Window signs are also far harde=
r for a researcher today to locate=C2=A0while there=C2=A0is a clear digital=
newspaper trail to=C2=A0Help Wanted ads.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for reporting on this issue.=
=C2=A0 It has been very interesting to follow.
Best regards,Dan Milner
www.stjohns.digication.com/danmilner=20


On Friday, August 7, 2015 11:02 AM, "Miller, Kerby A." wrote:
=20

Agreed, but cautioning us against chauvinistic mythologies was never
Jensen=C2=B9s primary concern, although it was an effective pseudo-liberal
camouflage for a very different ideological and political agenda.

BTW, don=C2=B9t all ethnic groups, in varying degrees and with varying degr=
ees
of justification, embrace such communal stories?=C2=A0 Certainly, the
=C2=B3Scotch-Irish=C2=B2 in America and the Protestant unionists of Ulster =
have done
so, although revisionist critics of Irish and Irish-American nationalism
generally overlook it.

Kerby Miller

On 8/6/15, 9:28 PM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of Matthew
Barlow" wrote:

>Jensen has always defended his thesis like a pit bull. I made the mistake
>of challenging him on the H-Ethnic listserv once. He just devolved into
>personal insults.=20
>
>He is wrong about the NINA signs. But I'm not sure he's wrong about the
>Irish American myth of oppression. I get students in my class who talk
>about the stories their families tell of being oppressed up to today,
>despite being comfortably middle class and all the Irish American
>successes. We, as in the Irish of the diaspora, like these stories. I
>think Jensen's value lies in the cautioning against this mythology.
>
>Matthew Barlow=20
>University of North Alabama.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Margaret Lynch-Brennan
>> wrote:
>>=20
>> If there was any consensus, it was that Jensen was and is wrong. I
>>criticized his thesis in a footnote in my book, "The Irish Bridget."=C2=
=A0 I
>>found NINA ads in my research and many other scholars found them in
>>their researchas well. Kerby Miller was always correct.
>> Best,
>> Peggy
>> ____________________________________
>> Margaret Lynch-Brennan, Ph.D.
>> NYS Education Dept., Retired, and
>> Independent Scholar
>>=20
>> ---- Bill Mulligan wrote:
>>> HNN (History News Network) has picked up on the recent Journal of
>>>Social
>>> History article rebutting Richard Jensen's article on discrimination
>>>against
>>> the Irish.=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Professor Jensen has replied to the young author on HNN - she is,
>>>according
>>> to most accounts, a high school student. Members can judge the
>>> appropriateness of Prof. Jensen tone in his response.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> In his reply Jensen claims his view is a "consensus" among scholars and
>>> cites "Adult historians" like Don MacRaild who agree with him.=C2=A0 Th=
is
>>>does
>>> not match up well with my recollections of the discussion here some
>>>time ago
>>> or my own work.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> What think you all?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Bill
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> William H. Mulligan, Jr.
>>>=20
>>> Professor of History
>>>=20
>>> MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012
>>>=20
>>> Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]
>>>=20
>>> Murray State University
>>>=20
>>> Murray KY 42071-3341 USA
>>>=20
>>> office phone 1-270-809-6571
>>>=20
>>> dept phone 1-270-809-2231
>>>=20
>>> fax 1-270-809-6587
>>>=20
>>>=20
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15 August 2015 15:38  
  
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:38:51 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Jensen Revisited -- HNN and Irish Central
  
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Both HNN (History News Network at George Mason University in Virginia)
www.hnn.com and Irish Central www.IrishCentral.com



Have been giving a good deal of attention to the high school woman who has
challenged Jensen and his response .



HNN

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160234 Most recent with a lengthy
discussion.



http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147 This I believe was first
mention.



Irish Central

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/8th-grader-how-she-proved-No-Irish
-Need-Apply-signs-existed--despite-denial-from-Prof.html?utm_source=Sailthru

&utm_medium=email&utm_term=The%20Best%20of%20IrishCentral&utm_campaign=Best%
20of%20IC%20-%20Aug%205



http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/1400-No-Irish-Need-Apply-examples-
found--can-you-help-us-find-more.html?utm_source=Sailthru

&utm_medium=email&utm_term=The%20Best%20of%20IrishCentral&utm_campaign=Best%
20of%20IC%20-%20Aug%206



http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/Real-life-No-Irish-Need-Apply-exam
ples-found-by-readers-from-the-US-to-Australia-.html?utm_source=Sailthru

&utm_medium=email&utm_term=The%20Best%20of%20IrishCentral&utm_campaign=Best%
20of%20IC%20-%20LiveIntent%20-%20Aug%207



http://www.irishcentral.com/news/No-Irish-Need-Apply-professor-says-14-year-
old-girls-findings-dont-disprove-his.html?utm_source=Sailthru

&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Best%20of%20IC%20-%20LiveIntent%20-%20Aug%201
3&utm_term=The%20Best%20of%20IrishCentral



http://www.irishcentral.com/news/irishvoice/The-truth-about-No-Irish-Need-Ap
ply-signs-is-vital.html?utm_source=Sailthru

&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Best%20of%20IC%20August%2015&utm_term=The%20B
est%20of%20IrishCentral%20%28Original%20Import%29



Bill Mulligan
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16 August 2015 11:49  
  
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 10:49:41 +0930 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jensen Revisited -- HNN and Irish Central
  
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Bill

I've been looking at the scope of NINA in Australia, something I'd located
in my own state of South Australia last year. But the more national picture
of newspaper advertisements is interesting.

In New South Wales between 1839 and 1917, 52 advertisements
In Victoria between 1853 and 1890, 59
In South Australia between 1852 and 1938, 30
In Tasmania between 1838 and 1892, 11
In Western Australia there was only one.

Stephanie James

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Of Bill Mulligan
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Subject: [IR-D] Jensen Revisited -- HNN and Irish Central

Both HNN (History News Network at George Mason University in Virginia)
www.hnn.com and Irish Central www.IrishCentral.com



Have been giving a good deal of attention to the high school woman who has
challenged Jensen and his response .



HNN

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160234 Most recent with a lengthy
discussion.



http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/160147 This I believe was first
mention.



Irish Central

http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/8th-grader-how-she-proved-No-Irish
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Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.
  
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From: "maureen e. Mulvihill"
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Greetings, friends & associates ~

On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~

Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in
development, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were
Jews active in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other
extant urban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, were
Jews assimilated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's
established writers, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary
or social ties with the city's Jewry?

Many thanks, indeed,

MEM

Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
"Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring
2015).
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Many thanks to Kerby Miller for the prompt & helpful reply. (Kerby, we met
a few years ago at the 'Bloody Sunday' conference, NYU Ireland House, where
I also met Martin McGuinness and Trisha Ziff ~ Ziff was the curator of *Hidden
Lies*, her well received 'Bloody Sunday' photographic exhibition which I
reviewed for the *New Hibernia Review* [link, below] ~ memorable
intersections!). Very good, then, I shall forward those references of yours
to this new contact of mine, on another list. [More, just below.]

My contact is also wondering about *anti-Semitic bigotry, of any scale,
among modern-day Irish-Americans*. I, frankly, don't see much of this in my
own experience, nor detected it in my parents' generation; in my view, Jews
& Irish-Americans have gotten along rather well over the centuries ~ in
business, in politics, and socially. (Many mutual attributes!) Peter Quinn
mentions close *political* ties between Irish and Jews during the glory
days of Tammany Hall (Quinn's essay in *Making the Irish American*, eds
J.J. Lee & Marion R. Casey, 2006 ~ the text I selected for my Diaspora
class, NYU, 2007; Quinn also might have ment'd Al Smith & Belle Moskowitz,
as well as Robert Briscoe, the NY Jew who became lord-mayor of Dublin). But
there *has been* active anti-Jewish sentiment in many U.S. WASP enclaves,
for sure, including some 'elite' social clubs and certain colleges &
universities which 'quietly' maintained, for more years than we care to
say, an admissions quota on Jewish applications. Any views on that
particular perspective? Yes, still a sensitive subject.

Appreciatively,
MEM / link, below:

'Bloody Sunday'
https://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=summary&url=/journals/new_hibernia_review/v006/6.4mulvihill.html
___


On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Miller, Kerby A.
wrote:

> Perhaps in the early chapters of these works?
>
> Hyman, Louis. THE JEWS OF IRELAND. Dublin: Irish Academic Press, 1997
> revised ed. [first pub. 1972].
>
> Rivlin, Ray. SHALOM IRELAND: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF JEWS IN MODERN IRELAND.
> Dublin: Gill and Macmillan, 2003.
>
> ___________. JEWISH IRELAND: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF IRISH-JEWISH LIFE.
> Dublin: The History Press, 2011.
>
>
>
> On 8/18/15 9:32 AM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of maureen
> e. Mulvihill" maureenemulvihill[at]GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> >Greetings, friends & associates ~
> >
> >On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~
> >
> >Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in
> >development, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were
> >Jews active in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other
> >extant urban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, were
> >Jews assimilated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's
> >established writers, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary
> >or social ties with the city's Jewry?
> >
> >Many thanks, indeed,
> >
> >MEM
> >
> >Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
> >Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
> >"Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring
> >2015).
> >___
>
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Perhaps in the early chapters of these works?

Hyman, Louis. THE JEWS OF IRELAND. Dublin: Irish Academic Press, 1997
revised ed. [first pub. 1972].

Rivlin, Ray. SHALOM IRELAND: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF JEWS IN MODERN IRELAND.
Dublin: Gill and Macmillan, 2003.

___________. JEWISH IRELAND: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF IRISH-JEWISH LIFE.
Dublin: The History Press, 2011.



On 8/18/15 9:32 AM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of maureen
e. Mulvihill" wrote:

>Greetings, friends & associates ~
>
>On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~
>
>Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in
>development, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were
>Jews active in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other
>extant urban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, were
>Jews assimilated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's
>established writers, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary
>or social ties with the city's Jewry?
>
>Many thanks, indeed,
>
>MEM
>
>Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
>Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
>"Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring
>2015).
>___
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Re: Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.
  
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http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/Ireland/ballybough.htm

http://www.jewishireland.org/irish-jewish-history/history/

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Ireland.html

(some general background)

Piaras

Sent from my iPad

On 18 L=FAn 2015, at 16:55, Miller, Kerby A. > wrote:

Perhaps in the early chapters of these works?

Hyman, Louis. THE JEWS OF IRELAND. Dublin: Irish Academic Press, 1997
revised ed. [first pub. 1972].

Rivlin, Ray. SHALOM IRELAND: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF JEWS IN MODERN IRELAND.
Dublin: Gill and Macmillan, 2003.

___________. JEWISH IRELAND: A SOCIAL HISTORY OF IRISH-JEWISH LIFE.
Dublin: The History Press, 2011.



On 8/18/15 9:32 AM, "The Irish Diaspora Studies List on behalf of maureen
e. Mulvihill" on behalf of
maureenemulvihill[at]GMAIL.COM> wrote:

Greetings, friends & associates ~

On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~

Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in
development, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were
Jews active in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other
extant urban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, were
Jews assimilated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's
established writers, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary
or social ties with the city's Jewry?

Many thanks, indeed,

MEM

Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
"Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring
2015).
___
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 12:33:09 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.
  
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Message-ID: {decoded}I know from my own family (those who were immigrants to north of England - Liverpool, Leeds etc. over a number of generations now) that the intermarriage of Irish immigrants and British people  (many worked in manufacturing)- to Jewish people is greatly underestimated (I was at a funeral in Leeds within the past few weeks where this very issue was discussed)  and the suspicion would be that the standard histories of Jews in Britain (and Ireland) underestimate the real number of immigrants with Jewish origins.
Many Jewish people shortened or changed their names or adopted local names  also  a stigma associated with assimilation  just as with many Irish people. Also, in many areas of Europe, Jewish immigrants maintained their traditional practice of assigning patronymics and were often reluctant to adopt the tradition of ascribing permanent family names.
Irish people also changed their surnames because of anti-Catholic (WASP) prejudice also or just to fit in better  but that is another whole area of study again.

Beannachtaí
Mícheál Ó hAodha
https://www.cic.ie/en/browseby/micheal-o-haodha




-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 18 August 2015 15:33
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.

Greetings, friends & associates ~

On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~

Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in development, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were Jews active in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other extant urban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, were Jews assimilated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's established writers, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary or social ties with the city's Jewry?

Many thanks, indeed,

MEM

Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
"Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring 2015).
___

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:25:47 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1508.txt]
  
Re: Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.
  
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Very interesting point. I have written about Irish/jewish partnerships in t=
he East End of London in the chapter

Walter, B. 2010. 'Irish/Jewish diasporic intersections in the East End of L=
ondon: paradoxes and shared locations' in M. Prum (ed) La place de l'autre =
Paris: L'Harmattan Press pp.53-67.

It can be downloaded from my university website (if you Google my name).

All the best

Bronwen
________________________________________
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of mi=
cheal.ohaodha [Micheal.OhAodha[at]UL.IE]
Sent: 19 August 2015 13:33
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.

I know from my own family (those who were immigrants to north of England - =
Liverpool, Leeds etc. over a number of generations now) that the intermarri=
age of Irish immigrants and British people =96 (many worked in manufacturin=
g)- to Jewish people is greatly underestimated (I was at a funeral in Leed=
s within the past few weeks where this very issue was discussed) =96 and th=
e suspicion would be that the standard histories of Jews in Britain (and Ir=
eland) underestimate the real number of immigrants with Jewish origins.
Many Jewish people shortened or changed their names or adopted local names =
=96 also =96 a stigma associated with =93assimilation=94 =96 just as with m=
any Irish people. Also, in many areas of Europe, Jewish immigrants maintai=
ned their traditional practice of assigning patronymics and were often relu=
ctant to adopt the tradition of ascribing permanent family names.
Irish people also changed their surnames because of anti-Catholic (WASP) pr=
ejudice also or just to fit in better =96 but that is another whole area of=
study again.

Beannachta=ED
M=EDche=E1l =D3 hAodha
https://www.cic.ie/en/browseby/micheal-o-haodha




-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal=
f Of maureen e. Mulvihill
Sent: 18 August 2015 15:33
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.

Greetings, friends & associates ~

On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~

Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in devel=
opment, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were Jews act=
ive in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other extant ur=
ban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, were Jews assi=
milated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's established writers=
, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary or social ties with =
the city's Jewry?

Many thanks, indeed,

MEM

Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
"Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring 2=
015).
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From: Patrick Maume
Dear all,
So that old 1960s TV comedy series about an Irish and a Jewish tailor in
partnership in the East End of London, NEVER MIND THE QUALITY, FEEL THE
WIDTH might not have been so far removed from reality after all. (Joe
Lynch played the Irish tailor, I can't remember the name of the other lead
actor)
Best wishes,
Patrick

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:25 PM, Walter, Bronwen wrote:

> Very interesting point. I have written about Irish/jewish partnerships in
> the East End of London in the chapter
>
> Walter, B. 2010. 'Irish/Jewish diasporic intersections in the East End of
> London: paradoxes and shared locations' in M. Prum (ed) La place de l'aut=
re
> Paris: L'Harmattan Press pp.53-67.
>
> It can be downloaded from my university website (if you Google my name).
>
> All the best
>
> Bronwen
> ________________________________________
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of
> micheal.ohaodha [Micheal.OhAodha[at]UL.IE]
> Sent: 19 August 2015 13:33
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.
>
> I know from my own family (those who were immigrants to north of England =
-
> Liverpool, Leeds etc. over a number of generations now) that the
> intermarriage of Irish immigrants and British people =E2=80=93 (many work=
ed in
> manufacturing)- to Jewish people is greatly underestimated (I was at a
> funeral in Leeds within the past few weeks where this very issue was
> discussed) =E2=80=93 and the suspicion would be that the standard histori=
es of Jews
> in Britain (and Ireland) underestimate the real number of immigrants with
> Jewish origins.
> Many Jewish people shortened or changed their names or adopted local name=
s
> =E2=80=93 also =E2=80=93 a stigma associated with =E2=80=9Cassimilation=
=E2=80=9D =E2=80=93 just as with many Irish
> people. Also, in many areas of Europe, Jewish immigrants maintained thei=
r
> traditional practice of assigning patronymics and were often reluctant to
> adopt the tradition of ascribing permanent family names.
> Irish people also changed their surnames because of anti-Catholic (WASP)
> prejudice also or just to fit in better =E2=80=93 but that is another who=
le area of
> study again.
>
> Beannachta=C3=AD
> M=C3=ADche=C3=A1l =C3=93 hAodha
> https://www.cic.ie/en/browseby/micheal-o-haodha
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On
> Behalf Of maureen e. Mulvihill
> Sent: 18 August 2015 15:33
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [IR-D] Jewish presence in 18th-century Ireland.
>
> Greetings, friends & associates ~
>
> On behalf of a new contact of mine on another list ~
>
> Most appreciated would be direction to any published work, or work in
> development, on the subject of Jews in 18th-century Ireland; e.g., were
> Jews active in the Dublin book trade; did contemporary gazetteers & other
> extant urban directories include synagogues; to what extent, perhaps, wer=
e
> Jews assimilated in Ireland's urban centers; did any of Dublin's
> established writers, particularly Swift and his circle, maintain literary
> or social ties with the city's Jewry?
>
> Many thanks, indeed,
>
> MEM
>
> Maureen E. Mulvihill, PhD
> Princeton Research Forum, Princeton NJ.
> "Shaking Hands with Jonathan Swift?", *Irish Literary Supplement *(Spring
> 2015).
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Full list of Glucksman Ireland House NYU Easter Rising programs
  
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America and the 1916 Easter Rising in Ireland
Glucksman Ireland House =E2=80=A2 New York University

Glucksman Ireland House NYU=E2=80=99s programs shed new light on the trans-=
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context of the 1916 Easter Rising, examining the context, actions, and
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during and prior to the Rising.

=E2=80=9CHer Exiled Children...=E2=80=9D: Music of the 1916 Easter Rising
Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 7pm
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and singer Mick Moloney, piper Jerry O'Sullivan, and fiddler Caitlin
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=E2=80=9CHer Exiled Children...=E2=80=9D: Voices in America & the 1916 East=
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Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 7pm
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=E2=80=9CHer Exiled Children...=E2=80=9D: Poetry in America & the 1916 East=
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Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 7pm
Renowned authors will read a selection of poems by Irish and
Irish-Americans that provide powerful reflections of individual commitments
to Irish nationalism at the time of the Rising. Pulitzer Prize-winning
poet and author Paul Muldoon will debut a new poem, commissioned by
Glucksman Ireland House NYU for the occasion. Venue: NYU=E2=80=99s Kimmel C=
enter
for University Life.

A Terrible Beauty screening & commentary
Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7pm
This 90-minute feature docudrama takes a unique look at the events of
Easter Week 1916 in Dublin. It is the first film to tell the story from
three different perspectives, showing the human cost of the fighting on all
sides. The screening is the prelude to a major two-day symposium at NYU.
Venue: The Sheen Center for Thought and Culture. Tickets: $10.

Independent Spirit: America and the 1916 Easter Rising
Thursday & Friday, April 21-22, 2016, all day
Uniquely focusing on the role of Americans and New York in the Easter 1916
Rising, this symposium of twenty scholars offers new research to
interrogate and locate the Rising in a transnational context. Keynote
speakers include:
=E2=80=A2 J.J. Lee, Department of History, New York University
=E2=80=A2 Terry Golway, Senior Editor, Politico New York
=E2=80=A2 Robert Schmuhl, University of Notre Dame
=E2=80=A2 Timothy J. Meagher, Catholic University of America
=E2=80=A2 David Brundage, University of California-Santa Cruz
Panelists include, but not limited to, Marion R. Casey, Kate Feighery, Mary
C. Kelly, Lucy McDiarmid, Gerard MacAtasney, =C3=9Ana N=C3=AD Bhroim=C3=A9i=
l, Miriam A.
Nyhan, John P. Waters, Daphne Dyer Wolf, and Nicholas M. Wolf. Venue:
Glucksman Ireland House NYU. Tickets: $50 for the public, $25 for students
& members.

Reading of the Proclamation
Friday, April 22, 2016 at 5pm
Representing Ireland=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9Cexiled children in America,=E2=80=
=9D actress Fionnula
Flanagan reads the Proclamation of the Irish Republic, the declaration of
independence from Great Britain. Venue: Washington Square Arch. Free.

Presented, in part, with the support of Ireland=E2=80=99s Department of For=
eign
Affairs & Trade and the Consulate General of Ireland in New York.

Tickets: $20 for the general public; $10 for Members of Glucksman Ireland
House NYU and students unless otherwise noted.

Visit www.irelandhouse.as.nyu.edu for more information, including tickets.




Anne Solari

Assistant Director

Glucksman Ireland House

New York University

1 Washington Mews

New York, NY 10003

Tel: (212) 998-3952

Web: www.irelandhouse.fas.nyu.edu

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 16:41:51 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1509.txt]
  
Digging for Gold: Irish Builders in postwar London]
  
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Dear Colleagues,

I'm hoping to draw on the collective experience and networking
capabilities of this listserv in order to identify a cohort of potential
interviewees and gather existing sources in relation to my PhD research
Project which focuses on the experiences of the Irish involved in the
construction industry in London, since the Second World War. If you are -
or know - someone who emigrated to London in the decades following World
War Two, who worked in building or civil engineering and who would be
willing to have their recollections recorded and become part of this study
then please contact me either by e-mail on michael.mulvey.2012[at]mumail.ie
or telephone 00353-87-981-5385. If you want to know more about the
project, please visit our Facebook page at:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Digging-for-Gold-Irish-Builders-in-postwar-London/975412392479037?ref=hl

I'd be very grateful either for relevant pointers in terms of existing
archival and oral sources or for assistance in disseminating this
information to potential participants.

Best wishes,

Michael Mulvey
PhD Research Student
History Department, Maynooth University
michael.mulvey.2012[at]nuim.ie
mickmulvey[at]gmail.com
Mob [IRE]: 00353 [0] 87 981 5385
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Dear Michael, I am sure you will know of the County Associations in G.B. I
recall addressing the Mayo Co. Assoc. in Manchester some years ago and there
were a good few there who would recall the "men who built Britian" - Ultan
Cowley's book which I sent on it rounds hereabouts in Tourmakeady and have
not seen it since! The Lydon family - John now recently deceased built a lot
around Finsbury Pk in the post war years- and the McNicholas' family from
N.Mayo also. All the best with the thesis. John McGurk.

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Subject: [IR-D] Digging for Gold: Irish Builders in postwar London]

Dear Colleagues,

I'm hoping to draw on the collective experience and networking
capabilities of this listserv in order to identify a cohort of potential
interviewees and gather existing sources in relation to my PhD research
Project which focuses on the experiences of the Irish involved in the
construction industry in London, since the Second World War. If you are -
or know - someone who emigrated to London in the decades following World
War Two, who worked in building or civil engineering and who would be
willing to have their recollections recorded and become part of this study
then please contact me either by e-mail on michael.mulvey.2012[at]mumail.ie
or telephone 00353-87-981-5385. If you want to know more about the
project, please visit our Facebook page at:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Digging-for-Gold-Irish-Builders-in-postwar-London/975412392479037?ref=hl

I'd be very grateful either for relevant pointers in terms of existing
archival and oral sources or for assistance in disseminating this
information to potential participants.

Best wishes,

Michael Mulvey
PhD Research Student
History Department, Maynooth University
michael.mulvey.2012[at]nuim.ie
mickmulvey[at]gmail.com
Mob [IRE]: 00353 [0] 87 981 5385
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