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*RE: Yeats quote (James Rodgers, St Thomas)*

Greetings, Jim Rodgers ~

As I am presently at work on a commissioned essay on the Yeats-Swift
connection, I spotted at once your query on Irish Diaspora-L regarding a
particular Yeats quote.

Do cast your net far wider, post it on a few other Irish lists, such as

Irish-Studies[at]JISCMail.AC.UK
Irish-AmericanStudies[at]Lehman.Cuny.edu
Irish.reference[at]linenhall.com

Best o' the season to you & yours,

MEM
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Yeats obviously didn't spend any time near a battlefield...

Piaras

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f Of Rogers, James S.
Sent: 05 December 2014 01:08
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote

This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:

'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It ta=
kes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a soldie=
r to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but I hav=
en't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'

I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask t=
he list. Anyone know?

James S. Rogers
UST Center for Irish Studies
Editor, New Hibernia Review
2115 Summit Ave, #5008
St Paul MN 55105-1096
(651) 962-5662

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I'm suspicious of the attribution of the quote. It doesn't sound like WBY =
to me.

Ed Hagan
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Amen.
www.stjohns.digication.com/danmilner

On Friday, December 5, 2014 4:39 AM, "MacEinri, Piaras" wrote:


Yeats obviously didn't spend any time near a battlefield...

Piaras

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f Of Rogers, James S.
Sent: 05 December 2014 01:08
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote

This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:

'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It ta=
kes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a soldie=
r to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but I hav=
en't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'

I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask t=
he list. Anyone know?

James S. Rogers
UST Center for Irish Studies
Editor, New Hibernia Review
2115 Summit Ave, #5008
St Paul MN 55105-1096
(651) 962-5662=

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Amen.=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0www.stjohns.digication.com/danmilner=20

On Friday, December 5, 2014 4:39 AM, "MacEinri, Piaras" wrote:
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Yeats obviously didn't spend any time near a battlefield...

Piaras

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f Of Rogers, James S.
Sent: 05 December 2014 01:08
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote

This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:

'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It ta=
kes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a soldie=
r to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but I hav=
en't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'

I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask t=
he list.=C2=A0 Anyone know?

James S. Rogers
UST Center for Irish Studies
Editor, New Hibernia Review
2115 Summit Ave, #5008
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By coincidence there was an interview with Cornel West on BBC tv today...

So maybe it is worth, ponderously, making the point that it is not difficult
to construct a fairly precise outline of mentions of this 'Yeats-ish'
quote...

Mr. Google and his friends allow us to put dates on things. (I think that
this is called 'history'.)

The first mention of the quote that I can see is in the transcript of a
Cornel West talk from June 25, 2003...

http://www.lannan.org/images/cf/cornel-west-030625-trans-read.pdf

QUOTE
To engage in Socratic activity, the activity of self-examination,
self-interrogation, self-questioning, requires courage, courage to
do what? To think for one's self. William Butler Yeats is right when he
said, "It takes more
courage to dig deep into the dark corners of one's own soul and wrestle with
what one finds than
it does for a soldier to fight on the battlefield." Part of the problem in
our nation, in our world, is
we don't have enough fellow citizens and human beings who are willing to
exercise the courage
to think critically, for themselves.
ENDQUOTE

So, the quote takes a slightly different form there.

Thereafter, it seems to me, that the only source for the quote is Cornel
West...

Video 2008
http://www.austinfilm.org/page.aspx?pid=2681

Book Version, Interview 2009
Examined Life: Excursions with Contemporary Thinkers edited by Astra Taylor
p6

Video Interview Extract 2011
http://www.archivefire.net/2011/02/cornel-west-on-truth-and-finitude.html

All the other 'sources' - including some who should know better - seem to be
simply copying and pasting Cornel West and each other. Some, sensibly, just
quote Cornel West...
http://eao.arizona.edu/sites/eao.arizona.edu/files/Man%20Up%20and%20Go%20To%
20College_November%209.pdf

http://weblogforlove.com/2014/11/finding-voice-amidst-cluster-sorts/

The only time that I can see the quote in an academic journal is
UNEXPECTED INSIGHTS INTO TERRORISM AND NATIONAL SECURITY LAW THROUGH
CHILDREN'S LITERTURE:
READING THE BUTTER BATTLE BOOK AS MONSTROSITY
Nick J. Sciullo
3 Br. J. Am. Leg. Studies (2014), pp518-9
Where the source is given as
William Butler Yeats, quoted in Cornel West, Truth, in ASTRA TAYLOR (ED.),
EXAMINED LIFE: EXCURSIONS WITH CONTEMPORARY THINKERS (2009)

That is to say, the Taylor book listed above... Obviously academic journals
will have to be on their guard.

So that there is fairly tidy picture here. If anyone really wants to know
the source of the quote they should ask Cornel West - he seems very
approachable.

I agree with Ed Hagen. It does not smell of Yeats, nor of his time or
milieu - when the discourse of the 'soul' and the 'battlefield' were
thoroughly intermingled. Which is why we are just about to commemorate
Easter 1916.

We will all now read Yeats, An Irish Airman Foresees his Death...

Paddy O'Sullivan
Bradford
Yorkshire


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Of Edward Hagan
Sent: 05 December 2014 16:28
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Subject: Re: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote

I'm suspicious of the attribution of the quote. It doesn't sound like WBY
to me.

Ed Hagan


-----Original Message-----
This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:

'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It
takes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a
soldier to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but
I haven't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'

I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask
the list. Anyone know?

James S. Rogers

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Jim - The meeting of Joyce and Yeats has been documented in a number of
places. It was Yeats who first wrote an account of the meeting and put
it amongst his papers. Yeats described Joyce as talking back to him and
even though he seemed to like him he was somewhat ruffled by Joyce's
attitude. He recorded that Joyce laughed at some of Yeats' literary
opinions on Balzac. Joyce reportedly sneered: "Who reads Balzac today?"

Then George Russell wrote an account that came from what Yeats told him
which is where the popular quote comes from. Although both Yeats and
Joyce in later years denied that Joyce had actually used those words
Richard Ellmann believes that there is some credence that something like
it actually took place.


Carmel


On 12/9/2014 9:40 AM, Rogers, James S. wrote:
> Thanks, Paddy et al.
>
> It occurs to me that someone could do an interesting paper on those well-known Irish quotes that no one ever really said-- we have this one; the old joke about Yeats having an abiding sense of gloom that got him through bouts of happiness; and Freud's putative comment that psychoanalysis was of no use on the Irish. The story about Joyce telling Yeats it was too bad he didn't meet him earlier as it was too late to help him now was also bogus, wasn't it?
>
> Jim Rogers
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Sullivan
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:24 AM
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: [IR-D] Yeats-ish
>
> By coincidence there was an interview with Cornel West on BBC tv today...
>
> So maybe it is worth, ponderously, making the point that it is not difficult to construct a fairly precise outline of mentions of this 'Yeats-ish'
> quote...
>
> Mr. Google and his friends allow us to put dates on things. (I think that this is called 'history'.)
>
> The first mention of the quote that I can see is in the transcript of a Cornel West talk from June 25, 2003...
>
> http://www.lannan.org/images/cf/cornel-west-030625-trans-read.pdf
>
> QUOTE
> To engage in Socratic activity, the activity of self-examination, self-interrogation, self-questioning, requires courage, courage to do what? To think for one's self. William Butler Yeats is right when he said, "It takes more courage to dig deep into the dark corners of one's own soul and wrestle with what one finds than it does for a soldier to fight on the battlefield." Part of the problem in our nation, in our world, is we don't have enough fellow citizens and human beings who are willing to exercise the courage to think critically, for themselves.
> ENDQUOTE
>
> So, the quote takes a slightly different form there.
>
> Thereafter, it seems to me, that the only source for the quote is Cornel West...
>
> Video 2008
> http://www.austinfilm.org/page.aspx?pid=2681
>
> Book Version, Interview 2009
> Examined Life: Excursions with Contemporary Thinkers edited by Astra Taylor
> p6
>
> Video Interview Extract 2011
> http://www.archivefire.net/2011/02/cornel-west-on-truth-and-finitude.html
>
> All the other 'sources' - including some who should know better - seem to be simply copying and pasting Cornel West and each other. Some, sensibly, just quote Cornel West...
> http://eao.arizona.edu/sites/eao.arizona.edu/files/Man%20Up%20and%20Go%20To%
> 20College_November%209.pdf
>
> http://weblogforlove.com/2014/11/finding-voice-amidst-cluster-sorts/
>
> The only time that I can see the quote in an academic journal is UNEXPECTED INSIGHTS INTO TERRORISM AND NATIONAL SECURITY LAW THROUGH CHILDREN'S LITERTURE:
> READING THE BUTTER BATTLE BOOK AS MONSTROSITY Nick J. Sciullo
> 3 Br. J. Am. Leg. Studies (2014), pp518-9 Where the source is given as William Butler Yeats, quoted in Cornel West, Truth, in ASTRA TAYLOR (ED.), EXAMINED LIFE: EXCURSIONS WITH CONTEMPORARY THINKERS (2009)
>
> That is to say, the Taylor book listed above... Obviously academic journals will have to be on their guard.
>
> So that there is fairly tidy picture here. If anyone really wants to know the source of the quote they should ask Cornel West - he seems very approachable.
>
> I agree with Ed Hagen. It does not smell of Yeats, nor of his time or milieu - when the discourse of the 'soul' and the 'battlefield' were thoroughly intermingled. Which is why we are just about to commemorate Easter 1916.
>
> We will all now read Yeats, An Irish Airman Foresees his Death...
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
> Bradford
> Yorkshire
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Edward Hagan
> Sent: 05 December 2014 16:28
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote
>
> I'm suspicious of the attribution of the quote. It doesn't sound like WBY to me.
>
> Ed Hagan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:
>
> 'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It takes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a soldier to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but I haven't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'
>
> I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask the list. Anyone know?
>
> James S. Rogers


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Yes, Cornel West is very affable and approachable. I have met him a
number of times and he is most interested in Ireland and knowledgeable
about the Irish experience.

Carmel


On 12/9/2014 7:23 AM, Patrick O'Sullivan wrote:
> By coincidence there was an interview with Cornel West on BBC tv today...
>
> So maybe it is worth, ponderously, making the point that it is not difficult
> to construct a fairly precise outline of mentions of this 'Yeats-ish'
> quote...
>
> Mr. Google and his friends allow us to put dates on things. (I think that
> this is called 'history'.)
>
> The first mention of the quote that I can see is in the transcript of a
> Cornel West talk from June 25, 2003...
>
> http://www.lannan.org/images/cf/cornel-west-030625-trans-read.pdf
>
> QUOTE
> To engage in Socratic activity, the activity of self-examination,
> self-interrogation, self-questioning, requires courage, courage to
> do what? To think for one's self. William Butler Yeats is right when he
> said, "It takes more
> courage to dig deep into the dark corners of one's own soul and wrestle with
> what one finds than
> it does for a soldier to fight on the battlefield." Part of the problem in
> our nation, in our world, is
> we don't have enough fellow citizens and human beings who are willing to
> exercise the courage
> to think critically, for themselves.
> ENDQUOTE
>
> So, the quote takes a slightly different form there.
>
> Thereafter, it seems to me, that the only source for the quote is Cornel
> West...
>
> Video 2008
> http://www.austinfilm.org/page.aspx?pid=2681
>
> Book Version, Interview 2009
> Examined Life: Excursions with Contemporary Thinkers edited by Astra Taylor
> p6
>
> Video Interview Extract 2011
> http://www.archivefire.net/2011/02/cornel-west-on-truth-and-finitude.html
>
> All the other 'sources' - including some who should know better - seem to be
> simply copying and pasting Cornel West and each other. Some, sensibly, just
> quote Cornel West...
> http://eao.arizona.edu/sites/eao.arizona.edu/files/Man%20Up%20and%20Go%20To%
> 20College_November%209.pdf
>
> http://weblogforlove.com/2014/11/finding-voice-amidst-cluster-sorts/
>
> The only time that I can see the quote in an academic journal is
> UNEXPECTED INSIGHTS INTO TERRORISM AND NATIONAL SECURITY LAW THROUGH
> CHILDREN'S LITERTURE:
> READING THE BUTTER BATTLE BOOK AS MONSTROSITY
> Nick J. Sciullo
> 3 Br. J. Am. Leg. Studies (2014), pp518-9
> Where the source is given as
> William Butler Yeats, quoted in Cornel West, Truth, in ASTRA TAYLOR (ED.),
> EXAMINED LIFE: EXCURSIONS WITH CONTEMPORARY THINKERS (2009)
>
> That is to say, the Taylor book listed above... Obviously academic journals
> will have to be on their guard.
>
> So that there is fairly tidy picture here. If anyone really wants to know
> the source of the quote they should ask Cornel West - he seems very
> approachable.
>
> I agree with Ed Hagen. It does not smell of Yeats, nor of his time or
> milieu - when the discourse of the 'soul' and the 'battlefield' were
> thoroughly intermingled. Which is why we are just about to commemorate
> Easter 1916.
>
> We will all now read Yeats, An Irish Airman Foresees his Death...
>
> Paddy O'Sullivan
> Bradford
> Yorkshire
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
> Of Edward Hagan
> Sent: 05 December 2014 16:28
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote
>
> I'm suspicious of the attribution of the quote. It doesn't sound like WBY
> to me.
>
> Ed Hagan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:
>
> 'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It
> takes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a
> soldier to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but
> I haven't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'
>
> I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask
> the list. Anyone know?
>
> James S. Rogers


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Thanks, Paddy et al.

It occurs to me that someone could do an interesting paper on those well-kn=
own Irish quotes that no one ever really said-- we have this one; the old j=
oke about Yeats having an abiding sense of gloom that got him through bouts=
of happiness; and Freud's putative comment that psychoanalysis was of no u=
se on the Irish. The story about Joyce telling Yeats it was too bad he did=
n't meet him earlier as it was too late to help him now was also bogus, was=
n't it?

Jim Rogers

-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal=
f Of Patrick O'Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:24 AM
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Yeats-ish

By coincidence there was an interview with Cornel West on BBC tv today...

So maybe it is worth, ponderously, making the point that it is not difficul=
t to construct a fairly precise outline of mentions of this 'Yeats-ish'
quote...

Mr. Google and his friends allow us to put dates on things. (I think that =
this is called 'history'.)

The first mention of the quote that I can see is in the transcript of a Cor=
nel West talk from June 25, 2003...

http://www.lannan.org/images/cf/cornel-west-030625-trans-read.pdf

QUOTE
To engage in Socratic activity, the activity of self-examination, self-inte=
rrogation, self-questioning, requires courage, courage to do what? To think=
for one's self. William Butler Yeats is right when he said, "It takes more=
courage to dig deep into the dark corners of one's own soul and wrestle wi=
th what one finds than it does for a soldier to fight on the battlefield." =
Part of the problem in our nation, in our world, is we don't have enough fe=
llow citizens and human beings who are willing to exercise the courage to t=
hink critically, for themselves.
ENDQUOTE

So, the quote takes a slightly different form there.

Thereafter, it seems to me, that the only source for the quote is Cornel We=
st...

Video 2008
http://www.austinfilm.org/page.aspx?pid=3D2681

Book Version, Interview 2009
Examined Life: Excursions with Contemporary Thinkers edited by Astra Taylor
p6

Video Interview Extract 2011
http://www.archivefire.net/2011/02/cornel-west-on-truth-and-finitude.html

All the other 'sources' - including some who should know better - seem to b=
e simply copying and pasting Cornel West and each other. Some, sensibly, j=
ust quote Cornel West...
http://eao.arizona.edu/sites/eao.arizona.edu/files/Man%20Up%20and%20Go%20To=
%
20College_November%209.pdf

http://weblogforlove.com/2014/11/finding-voice-amidst-cluster-sorts/

The only time that I can see the quote in an academic journal is UNEXPECTED=
INSIGHTS INTO TERRORISM AND NATIONAL SECURITY LAW THROUGH CHILDREN'S LITER=
TURE:
READING THE BUTTER BATTLE BOOK AS MONSTROSITY Nick J. Sciullo
3 Br. J. Am. Leg. Studies (2014), pp518-9 Where the source is given as Will=
iam Butler Yeats, quoted in Cornel West, Truth, in ASTRA TAYLOR (ED.), EXAM=
INED LIFE: EXCURSIONS WITH CONTEMPORARY THINKERS (2009)

That is to say, the Taylor book listed above... Obviously academic journal=
s will have to be on their guard.

So that there is fairly tidy picture here. If anyone really wants to know =
the source of the quote they should ask Cornel West - he seems very approac=
hable.

I agree with Ed Hagen. It does not smell of Yeats, nor of his time or mili=
eu - when the discourse of the 'soul' and the 'battlefield' were thoroughl=
y intermingled. Which is why we are just about to commemorate Easter 1916.

We will all now read Yeats, An Irish Airman Foresees his Death...

Paddy O'Sullivan
Bradford
Yorkshire


-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal=
f Of Edward Hagan
Sent: 05 December 2014 16:28
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote

I'm suspicious of the attribution of the quote. It doesn't sound like WBY =
to me.

Ed Hagan


-----Original Message-----
This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:

'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It ta=
kes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a soldie=
r to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but I hav=
en't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'

I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask t=
he list. Anyone know?

James S. Rogers

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Or Dev's alleged "comely maidens" which has been bandied about more often t=
han...

Beannachta=ED
Micheal =D3 hAodha

https://www.cic.ie/en/books/published-books/the-glen-an-gleann-recollection=
s-from-a-lost-world
https://www.cic.ie/en/browseby/micheal-o-haodha





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f Of Rogers, James S.
Sent: 09 December 2014 14:40
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Subject: Re: [IR-D] Yeats-ish

Thanks, Paddy et al.

It occurs to me that someone could do an interesting paper on those well-kn=
own Irish quotes that no one ever really said-- we have this one; the old j=
oke about Yeats having an abiding sense of gloom that got him through bouts=
of happiness; and Freud's putative comment that psychoanalysis was of no u=
se on the Irish. The story about Joyce telling Yeats it was too bad he did=
n't meet him earlier as it was too late to help him now was also bogus, was=
n't it?

Jim Rogers

-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal=
f Of Patrick O'Sullivan
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 6:24 AM
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Yeats-ish

By coincidence there was an interview with Cornel West on BBC tv today...

So maybe it is worth, ponderously, making the point that it is not difficul=
t to construct a fairly precise outline of mentions of this 'Yeats-ish'
quote...

Mr. Google and his friends allow us to put dates on things. (I think that =
this is called 'history'.)

The first mention of the quote that I can see is in the transcript of a Cor=
nel West talk from June 25, 2003...

http://www.lannan.org/images/cf/cornel-west-030625-trans-read.pdf

QUOTE
To engage in Socratic activity, the activity of self-examination, self-inte=
rrogation, self-questioning, requires courage, courage to do what? To think=
for one's self. William Butler Yeats is right when he said, "It takes more=
courage to dig deep into the dark corners of one's own soul and wrestle wi=
th what one finds than it does for a soldier to fight on the battlefield." =
Part of the problem in our nation, in our world, is we don't have enough fe=
llow citizens and human beings who are willing to exercise the courage to t=
hink critically, for themselves.
ENDQUOTE

So, the quote takes a slightly different form there.

Thereafter, it seems to me, that the only source for the quote is Cornel We=
st...

Video 2008
http://www.austinfilm.org/page.aspx?pid=3D2681

Book Version, Interview 2009
Examined Life: Excursions with Contemporary Thinkers edited by Astra Taylor
p6

Video Interview Extract 2011
http://www.archivefire.net/2011/02/cornel-west-on-truth-and-finitude.html

All the other 'sources' - including some who should know better - seem to b=
e simply copying and pasting Cornel West and each other. Some, sensibly, j=
ust quote Cornel West...
http://eao.arizona.edu/sites/eao.arizona.edu/files/Man%20Up%20and%20Go%20To=
%
20College_November%209.pdf

http://weblogforlove.com/2014/11/finding-voice-amidst-cluster-sorts/

The only time that I can see the quote in an academic journal is UNEXPECTED=
INSIGHTS INTO TERRORISM AND NATIONAL SECURITY LAW THROUGH CHILDREN'S LITER=
TURE:
READING THE BUTTER BATTLE BOOK AS MONSTROSITY Nick J. Sciullo
3 Br. J. Am. Leg. Studies (2014), pp518-9 Where the source is given as Will=
iam Butler Yeats, quoted in Cornel West, Truth, in ASTRA TAYLOR (ED.), EXAM=
INED LIFE: EXCURSIONS WITH CONTEMPORARY THINKERS (2009)

That is to say, the Taylor book listed above... Obviously academic journal=
s will have to be on their guard.

So that there is fairly tidy picture here. If anyone really wants to know =
the source of the quote they should ask Cornel West - he seems very approac=
hable.

I agree with Ed Hagen. It does not smell of Yeats, nor of his time or mili=
eu - when the discourse of the 'soul' and the 'battlefield' were thoroughl=
y intermingled. Which is why we are just about to commemorate Easter 1916.

We will all now read Yeats, An Irish Airman Foresees his Death...

Paddy O'Sullivan
Bradford
Yorkshire


-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behal=
f Of Edward Hagan
Sent: 05 December 2014 16:28
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] tracking down a WBY quote

I'm suspicious of the attribution of the quote. It doesn't sound like WBY =
to me.

Ed Hagan


-----Original Message-----
This query from a colleague here in the English Dept:

'I'm trying to track down the precise source of Yeats's observation, "It ta=
kes more courage to examine the dark corners of your soul than for a soldie=
r to fight on the battlefield." Googling yields a gazillion hits, but I hav=
en't had any luck finding WHERE Yeats actually said this.'

I'm no use to him (and actually don't recall the remark) but said I'd ask t=
he list. Anyone know?

James S. Rogers

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Forwarded on behalf of the Mellon Center for Migration Studies.=20

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Dear colleagues and friends,

=20

Mellon Centre for Migration Studies Annual Report 2013-2014 and=20

Christmas greetings =20

=20

Please take a look at our latest =
=
Annual Report 2013-2014.

=20

The Fourteenth Annual Irish Migration Studies Lecture 2015 will be =
given on Saturday 7 February at 11.00 am when Professor Keith Jeffery of =
Queen=E2=80=99s University Belfast, author of Ireland and the Great War =
(Cambridge, 2011), will speak on =E2=80=98Migration and the First World =
War=E2=80=99.

Last year=E2=80=99s lecture by Dr Gerry Moran is still available for =
listening online: =E2=80=98The Poor Law and Assisted Emigration during =
the Great Famine =
=20

=20

The =
=
Twentieth Ulster-American Heritage Symposium was held very successfully =
in June this year at two venues: Quinnipiac University, Connecticut, =
18-21 June, and Georgia University, Athens, Georgia, 25-28 June. We =
thank again our hosts, Professor Christine Kinealy and=20

Sam Thomas and their colleagues. Quinnipiac University plans to publish =
a selection of proceedings under the title Irish Hunger & Migration: =
Myth, Memory and Memorialization

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We look forward to hosting the Twenty-First Ulster-American Heritage =
Symposium =
in =
2016, 22-25 June, when the Ulster-American Folk Park will be celebrating =
its fortieth anniversary and our theme will be =E2=80=98Forty Years On: =
current directions in Ulster-American Heritage Studies=E2=80=99

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The Ulster Historical Foundation=E2=80=99s Irish Genealogy Conference =
=E2=80=98Searching for that Elusive Irish or Scots Irish =
Ancestor=E2=80=99 =
will visit =
us on Tuesday 8 September, 2015

=20

The Sixteenth Literature of Irish Exile Autumn School 2015 will be held =
on Saturday 17 October 2015.

=20

Seven students are on the point of completing the pioneering module in =
=E2=80=98Family, Community and Migration History=E2=80=99 as part of the =
new =
Queen=E2=80=99s =
University Belfast Masters by Research (MRes) degree programme in Irish =
Local History.

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Finally, a new book, Wayfaring Strangers: the musical voyage from =
Scotland and Ulster to Appalachia =
, by Fiona Ritchie and =
Doug Orr, featuring the Ulster-American Folk Park, is published by the =
University of North Carolina Press in time for Christmas.=20

=20

=20

With thanks from all of us here for your continuing interest and =
support, and with all good wishes for the Christmas Season and New Year,

=20

Yours sincerely,

Brian Lambkin

Director

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16/12/14

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=20

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Senior Library Assistant
Libraries NI
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Innovative European publisher for Irish Studies-related books - would be
worth bringing to the attention of the Irish Diaspora (IR-D) mailing =
List
methinks.

=20

Micheal O haodha [Micheal.OhAodha[at]ul.ie]

=20

Nuasc=E9alta is an independent publishing company founded in 2011. Our =
press
is dedicated to bringing to the reading public fresh new writing that
reflects diversity particularly in Irish Gaelic, English, Catalan and
Spanish. Many are works in translation.=20

We publish approximately 10-20 titles per year including children=B4s =
books,
fiction, poetry, and nonfiction. Our titles are published in both print =
and
e-book format.=20

Nuasc=E9alta provides a venue for fiction, poetry and non-fiction that =
can't
be easily categorized. Large publishers are less inclined to take any
chances. We use our position to challenge the ambit and give readers =
more
choices.=20

The cornerstone of our children=B4s division is the =C1r Sc=E9alta =
series of books
written in Irish Gaelic for young readers aged 4-7. In response to =
praise
from teachers for our =C1r Sc=E9alta series, we developed teacher=92s =
guides for
the =C1r Sc=E9alta titles.

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*SHACKLETONBY ENDURANCE WE CONQUER*

*By Michael Smith*

Oneworld Publications, London. 2014.
Cloth. 443 pp. Illus. Index. Jacket.
ISBN 978 1 78074 572 5
eISBN 978 1 78074 573 2
UK=C2=A320. U.S.$30. CAN.$32.99

*Brief summary*
We welcome this important contribution to the history of legendary Irish
(and Anglo-Irish) figures. Michael Smith, Ernest Shackleton's most current
biographer, offers a balanced portrait of his subject by revealing the
flawed genius behind the heroic myth. Over 41 chapters, Smith reconstructs
Shackleton's diasporic family history (the Shackletons were originally
Quakers from No. England), as well as his early training & formative years
in County Kildare, the important London connections, and the heroic
expeditions; but Smith also considers Shackleton's missteps, outright
blunders, and romantic entanglements. Smith is especially good in depicting
Shackleton's character and charismatic leadership, especially during crisis
('When all else fails, pray for Shackleton!'). Smith also offers
interesting information on Shackleton's Irishness, from the early years in
Kildare to his longstanding love of literature ~ reciting poetry,
especially Browning and Kipling, was sometimes used as a motivational
tactic during expeditions. Maps, family portraits, lecture posters, and
expedition photos are included.

*Michael ('Mick') Smith* is a respected polar expedition author whose
earlier books were shortlisted for the 2002 Banff Mountain Book Festival
Prize and the 2007 Irish-published Book of the Year Prize. A former
journalist, Smith is a valued contributor to various television and radio
documentaries; he also lectures on polar history. As Smith explained in a
recent interview, "A whole generation has passed since the last full
biography of Shackleton in 1985. Since 2014 is the centenary of the epic
Endurance expedition, it was timely to re-examine one of history's most
compelling figures. ... My book brings a fresh, 21st-century perspective on
his series of incredible adventures. I also untangle the myths from the
reality of this complex character's very packed life." Mr Smith resides in
Dublin.

*Publisher contact*
Becky Kraemer
becky[at]cursivecomms.com

*Author contact*
Michael Smith
michael.smith13[at]virgin.net

*Relevant links*
http://www.micksmith.co.uk/
https://www.oneworld-publications.com/books/michael-smith/shackleton#.VKMs7=
ChiGjg
http://www.spectator.co.uk/books/9334971/shackleton-by-michael-smith-review=
/
http://www.amazon.com/Shackleton-By-Endurance-We-Conquer/dp/1780745729

*Notice contributed by: *
Maureen E. Mulvihill
Editor, *Poems of Mary Shackleton Leadbeater*
Alexander Street Press, Irish Women Poets series, 2008.
https://www.worldcat.org/title/mary-shackleton-leadbeater/oclc/593682378&re=
ferer=3Dbrief_results
____

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Only an Excuse 31/12/2014. "Scotland's premier comedy team take a humorous=
look back at the highs and lows of the year" (BBC Scotland website)
=20
Watch at........................
=20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04wlt8b/only-an-excuse-2014
=20
Two minutes into the programme former Celtic Football Club and Irish intern=
ational goalkeeper Pat Bonner (now a fairly regular studio guest on BBC Rad=
io Scotland soccer programmes - especially when Celtic involved) is portray=
ed in one minute sketch. Is this anti-Irish racism dressed with a humorous=
face, harmless fun regarding an Irish-Donegal accent from a Scottish/Briti=
sh perspective or about the character of Bonner? Or, any other explanation,=
context, interpretation? Apart from many negative comments regarding how =
poor the programme has become over the years, to date few have been made in=
the mainstream media regarding this particular sketch. Any opinions?
=20
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/gordon-parks-bbc-missed-open-49=
15608
=20
http://www.talkceltic.net/forum/showthread.php?p=3D4418751
--=20
The University of Stirling has been ranked in the top 12 of UK universities=
for graduate employment*.
94% of our 2012 graduates were in work and/or further study within six mont=
hs of graduation.
*The Telegraph
The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 0=
11159.

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SHACKLETON
BY ENDURANCE WE CONQUER

By Michael Smith

Oneworld Publications, London. 2014.=20
Cloth. 443 pp. Illus. Index. Jacket.
ISBN 978 1 78074 572 5
eISBN 978 1 78074 573 2
UK=A320. U.S.$30. CAN.$32.99

Brief summary=20
We welcome this important contribution to the history of legendary Irish
(and Anglo-Irish) figures. Michael Smith, Ernest Shackleton's most =
current
biographer, offers a balanced portrait of his subject by revealing the
flawed genius behind the heroic myth. Over 41 chapters, Smith =
reconstructs
Shackleton's diasporic family history (the Shackletons were originally
Quakers from No. England), as well as his early training & formative =
years
in County Kildare, the important London connections, and the heroic
expeditions; but Smith also considers Shackleton's missteps, outright
blunders, and romantic entanglements. Smith is especially good in =
depicting
Shackleton's character and charismatic leadership, especially during =
crisis
('When all else fails, pray for Shackleton!'). Smith also offers =
interesting
information on Shackleton's Irishness, from the early years in Kildare =
to
his longstanding love of literature ~ reciting poetry, especially =
Browning
and Kipling, was sometimes used as a motivational tactic during =
expeditions.
Maps, family portraits, lecture posters, and expedition photos are =
included.
=20
Michael ('Mick') Smith is a respected polar expedition author whose =
earlier
books were shortlisted for the 2002 Banff Mountain Book Festival Prize =
and
the 2007 Irish-published Book of the Year Prize. A former journalist, =
Smith
is a valued contributor to various television and radio documentaries; =
he
also lectures on polar history. As Smith explained in a recent =
interview, "A
whole generation has passed since the last full biography of Shackleton =
in
1985. Since 2014 is the centenary of the epic Endurance expedition, it =
was
timely to re-examine one of history's most compelling figures. ... My =
book
brings a fresh, 21st-century perspective on his series of incredible
adventures. I also untangle the myths from the reality of this complex
character's very packed life." Mr Smith resides in Dublin. =20

Publisher contact
Becky Kraemer
becky[at]cursivecomms.com

Author contact
Michael Smith
michael.smith13[at]virgin.net

Relevant links
http://www.micksmith.co.uk/
https://www.oneworld-publications.com/books/michael-smith/shackleton#.VKM=
s7C
hiGjg
http://www.spectator.co.uk/books/9334971/shackleton-by-michael-smith-revi=
ew/
http://www.amazon.com/Shackleton-By-Endurance-We-Conquer/dp/1780745729

Notice contributed by:=20
Maureen E. Mulvihill
Editor, Poems of Mary Shackleton Leadbeater
Alexander Street Press, Irish Women Poets series, 2008.
https://www.worldcat.org/title/mary-shackleton-leadbeater/oclc/593682378
&referer=3Dbrief_results

=20

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Thanks to Cian McMahon for this. The University of North Carolina Press
has published a number of books of interest to the list, including the work
of David Gleeson and Cian's own as well as others dealing with music and a
variety of topics.

Let me take this chance to wish everyone on the list a very happy and
productive new year.

Bill

I thought the members of the IR-D List might like to know that the
University of North Carolina Press is currently running a 40% off "Holiday
Sale." Buyers should enter the code 01HOLIDAY during checkout to receive
the discount. http://uncpress.unc.edu/browse/page/846

Admittedly, I have a dog in the race: my book *The Global Dimensions of
Irish Identity* is forthcoming in April 2015 and can be pre-ordered at the
sale price. Nevertheless, this discount applies to ALL UNC Press titles so
I thought I would draw it to the attention of my friends and colleagues.

Thanks,
Cian

--
Cian T. McMahon, PhD
Assistant Professor
Department of History & Honors College
University of Nevada, Las Vegas
cian.mcmahon[at]unlv.edu
www.ctmcmahon.com
http://uncpress.unc.edu/books/12616.html



--
William H. Mulligan, Jr.
Professor of History
President, Chapter 302 The Honor Society of Phi Kappa Phi

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Dear Irish Diaspora members,

Please find below the CFP for an international conference, "Ireland : =C2=
=A0
Shared Futures?" to be held at Rennes 2 University from 10th to 12th =C2=A0
September 2015. The deadline for paper proposals is 31st January:

http://sharedfuturesr2.sciencesconf.org/

Wishing you all a happy, healthy and fulfilling 2015,

=C2=A0

Grainne O'Keeffe-Vigneron
Centre d=E2=80=99=C3=89tudes Irlandaises - CRBC Rennes

------------------------

CFP Ireland : Shared Futures? 10-12 September 2015

Universit=C3=A9 Rennes 2, Brittany, France (Centre d'Etudes Irlandaises, =
=C2=A0
CRBC Rennes)

This conference will consider the future to be shared by the people of =C2=
=A0
the island of Ireland, both North and South, at home and abroad, =C2=A0
including future relations with Britain, the European Union and the =C2=A0
outlook for Ireland in an increasingly globalised and inter-dependent =C2=
=A0
world.

The theme of the conference owes much to the ongoing debate within =C2=A0
Northern Ireland, as an integral part of the conflict transformation =C2=A0
process, on how to build a shared and better future for all citizens =C2=A0
out of a divided and traumatic past. Some critics of the =C2=A0
consociational model which underpinned the 1998 Good Friday Agreement =C2=
=A0
have argued that, "whereas the minutiae of the governing institutions, =C2=
=A0
security arrangements, and the relationships between the UK and =C2=A0
Ireland were detailed, no such policy specifications were made for =C2=A0
societal transformation."1

Subsequent consultations and reports have sought to address this =C2=A0
vacuum, following on from Harbison's Review of Community Relations =C2=A0
Policy in 20022. A large-scale consultation, A Shared Future on =C2=A0
Improving Community Relations in Northern Ireland, was launched in =C2=A0
January 2003, recognizing that "Northern Ireland remain[ed] a deeply =C2=A0
segregated society with little indication of progress towards becoming =C2=
=A0
more tolerant or inclusive", citing segregated housing and education, =C2=
=A0
violence at interfaces, high levels of racial prejudice and stating =C2=A0
that "people=E2=80=99s lives continue to be shaped by community division".

In May 2013, the First Minister and deputy First Minister affirmed =C2=A0
their commitment to "building a united and shared society" with the =C2=A0
unveiling of a new good relations strategy: Together: Building a =C2=A0
United Community. The framework policy document advocates a community =C2=
=A0
"strengthened by its diversity, where cultural expression is =C2=A0
celebrated and embraced and where everyone can live, learn, work and =C2=A0
socialize together, free from prejudice, hate and intolerance".

In the Republic, the financial crisis has left a deep mark on both the =C2=
=A0
economy and its people. The 2010 bailout of =E2=82=AC67.5 billion granted b=
y =C2=A0
the EU and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has left the Republic =C2=
=A0
with a staggering debt to pay, 123% of GDP. The austerity measures =C2=A0
imposed by this bailout have done much to affect the morale of the =C2=A0
country. Unemployment rose to over 15% in 2012 and cuts of billions of =C2=
=A0
euros have been made to social welfare, public sector wages and =C2=A0
pensions. In addition, many capital expenditure projects have been =C2=A0
stopped. Mass Irish emigration has increased again as Irish people are =C2=
=A0
forced to leave a struggling economy to start a new future in =C2=A0
destinations such as the UK and Australia.

Ireland exited the bailout programme at the end of 2013 and has now =C2=A0
taken control of its own affairs again. The Taoiseach Enda Kenny in a =C2=
=A0
live televised address to the nation in December 2013 stated: =C2=A0
=E2=80=9CThroughout our history, the Irish people have already shown that =
=C2=A0
nothing is impossible for us to achieve, when we really apply =C2=A0
ourselves to a challenge or a cause=E2=80=9D3.

The decade of centenaries and commemorations on both sides of the =C2=A0
Irish Sea is providing an opportunity to reflect upon some of the =C2=A0
challenges that Ireland has been confronted with in the past. Queen =C2=A0
Elizabeth's first state visit to the Republic of Ireland in June 2011 =C2=
=A0
acknowledged a common but difficult history and confirmed the =C2=A0
closeness of British-Irish relations. Likewise, during his reciprocal =C2=
=A0
visit to Britain in 2014, President Higgins declared that, =E2=80=9Csuch =
=C2=A0
reflection offers an opportunity to craft a bright future on the =C2=A0
extensive common ground we share and, where we differ in matters of =C2=A0
interpretation, to have respectful empathy for each other=E2=80=99s =C2=A0
perspectives=E2=80=9D 4.

1 See James Hughes, "Is Northern Ireland a "Model" for Conflict =C2=A0
resolution?"; LSE Workshop on State Reconstruction after Civil War?" =C2=A0
29 March 2011 (http://personal.lse.ac.uk/HUGHESJ/images/NIModel.pdf), =C2=
=A0
(accessed 28 July 2014).
2 http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/community/harbison02.pdf, (accessed 28 =C2=
=A0
July 2014).
3 An address by Taoiseach Enda Kenny TD, (15/12/2013), =C2=A0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5qjCLvANgkM, (accessed 1 July 2014).
4 =C2=A0
http://www.president.ie/news/address-by-president-higgins-to-the-houses-of-=
parliament-westminster/ (accessed 1 August =C2=A0
2014).

Suggested topics for paper proposals:
1. State and institutional roles in promoting a shared future =C2=A0
(political parties, the Churches); constitutional perspectives; =C2=A0
cross-border cooperation.
2. Expressions of communal or individual identities; shared or neutral =C2=
=A0
public spaces.
3. Community or grass-roots initiatives (faith-based groups, community =C2=
=A0
arts, NGOs, minority groups).
4. Sociological indicators; violence, racism and hate crimes. =C2=A0
Segregation / integration in housing, employment, education, sports, =C2=A0
personal relationships and leisure activities.
5. Economic issues; the diseconomies of division.
6. Dealing with a traumatic past; paramilitary activity; transitional =C2=
=A0
justice; new perspectives on Irish history.
7. Migration and immigration from Central and Eastern Europe (impact =C2=A0
in the North and the Republic); the Diaspora (its role in the future =C2=A0
of the island; the place accorded by the Irish state to the Irish =C2=A0
abroad).
8. Social liberalism v social conservatism; issues of morality, =C2=A0
gender, sexuality.
9. Ireland's relationship with Britain, Europe and further afield; =C2=A0
implications of the referendum on Scottish independence.
10. Representations of community relations and a shared future in =C2=A0
literature, film, art...

The cross-disciplinary nature of Irish Studies provides a wide range =C2=A0
of approaches from which to examine the theme of =E2=80=98Shared Futures=E2=
=80=99. We =C2=A0
welcome submissions for 20-minute papers in English from numerous =C2=A0
areas including Conflict and Peace Studies, Law and Human Rights, =C2=A0
History, Politics, Comparative Analysis, Sociology, Psychology, =C2=A0
Economics, Cultural Studies, Migration Studies, Literature, Media and =C2=
=A0
Film Studies, Visual Arts, Performing Arts...

Keynote Speakers confirmed:

Prof. John D. Brewer, Professor of Post-Conflict Studies, Queen=E2=80=99s =
=C2=A0
University Belfast.
Fergal Keane, BBC journalist and Professorial Fellow at the Institute =C2=
=A0
of Irish Studies, University of Liverpool.
Dr. Piaras MacEinri, Director of the Irish Centre for Migration =C2=A0
Studies (ICMS), Department of Geography, University College Cork (UCC).

Paper Submission:

Please submit your proposals (title and 250-word maximum abstract) by =C2=
=A0
31st January 2015 via the conference website:
http://sharedfuturesr2.sciencesconf.org/

Publication:
A selection of papers will be published following the conference.

Conference Organisers:
Dr. St=C3=A9phane Jousni=20
Dr. Lesley Lelourec
Dr. Grainne O'Keeffe-Vignero

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Dear Members, please see below for our 'call for abstracts' for two
sessions for this upcoming CSA Congress. For those interested please
contact me for more further details if required.

Kindly,

Agata


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boundaries-belonging-and-religious-leadership/



*Sociology of Religion: Religion and the Life Course*





Session Description: This session provides an opportunity for scholars to
present research findings on a wide variety of topics related to religion
and the life course. The focus of papers may be on the evolution of
people's religious attitudes and practices over time or on religious
attitudes and practices at one certain point in the life course (e.g.,
childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, etc.). Alternatively, analyses of
denominational or institutional perspectives on childhood or on aging might
be presented, as might insights pertaining to themes such as religion and
parenting or religion and end-of-life issues. Papers on other topics are
also welcome and, presuming the analysis is sociological in nature, there
is no restriction on the approach to be taken (whether it be theoretical,
empirical, quantitative or qualitative).


*Sociology of Religion: Religious Leadership*

Session Description: This session focuses on the role of religious
leadership. Who leads =E2=80=9Creligious=E2=80=9D communities? The session =
will focus on
the sociology of religion from the perspective of leaders to highlight the
ways in which boundaries are maintained and / or negotiated. Those
interested in applying to this session will consider questions regarding
one single faith community across time, its formation / participation
nationally or cross-nationally, or focus on the intersection of multi-faith
relationships, which includes inter-faith dialogue, intra-faith
heterogeneity, or the various ways in which diverse religious views
influences one another. This session is not limited to institutionalized
forms of religion, but also welcomes insights into less dominant forms of
religious / spiritual participation, practice, and belonging.


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Agata Piekosz M.A.
PhD Candidate
University of Toronto

*http://utoronto.academia.edu/AgataPiekosz
*

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Dear Members, please see below for our 'call for abstracts' for two
sessions for this upcoming CSA Congress. For those interested please
contact me for more further details if required.

Kindly,

Agata


http://www.csa-scs.ca/files/webapps/csapress/annual-conferences/2014/11/17/=
boundaries-belonging-and-religious-leadership/



*Sociology of Religion: Religion and the Life Course*





Session Description: This session provides an opportunity for scholars to
present research findings on a wide variety of topics related to religion
and the life course. The focus of papers may be on the evolution of
people's religious attitudes and practices over time or on religious
attitudes and practices at one certain point in the life course (e.g.,
childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, etc.). Alternatively, analyses of
denominational or institutional perspectives on childhood or on aging might
be presented, as might insights pertaining to themes such as religion and
parenting or religion and end-of-life issues. Papers on other topics are
also welcome and, presuming the analysis is sociological in nature, there
is no restriction on the approach to be taken (whether it be theoretical,
empirical, quantitative or qualitative).


*Sociology of Religion: Religious Leadership*

Session Description: This session focuses on the role of religious
leadership. Who leads =E2=80=9Creligious=E2=80=9D communities? The session =
will focus on
the sociology of religion from the perspective of leaders to highlight the
ways in which boundaries are maintained and / or negotiated. Those
interested in applying to this session will consider questions regarding
one single faith community across time, its formation / participation
nationally or cross-nationally, or focus on the intersection of multi-faith
relationships, which includes inter-faith dialogue, intra-faith
heterogeneity, or the various ways in which diverse religious views
influences one another. This session is not limited to institutionalized
forms of religion, but also welcomes insights into less dominant forms of
religious / spiritual participation, practice, and belonging.


--=20
Agata Piekosz M.A.
PhD Candidate
University of Toronto

*http://utoronto.academia.edu/AgataPiekosz
*





--=20
Agata Piekosz M.A.
PhD Candidate
University of Toronto

*http://utoronto.academia.edu/AgataPiekosz
*

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Message-ID: {decoded}Dear Agata

Nice to see a posting from you - hope all is well and Happy New Year.

This looks really interesting!! I'm not sure where I'll be at that time of year, but would love to attend.

Kind regards

Piaras

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Subject: [IR-D] Fwd: Call for Abstracts: CSA Ottawa 2015

Dear Members, please see below for our 'call for abstracts' for two sessions for this upcoming CSA Congress. For those interested please contact me for more further details if required.

Kindly,

Agata


http://www.csa-scs.ca/files/webapps/csapress/annual-conferences/2014/11/17/boundaries-belonging-and-religious-leadership/



*Sociology of Religion: Religion and the Life Course*





Session Description: This session provides an opportunity for scholars to present research findings on a wide variety of topics related to religion and the life course. The focus of papers may be on the evolution of people's religious attitudes and practices over time or on religious attitudes and practices at one certain point in the life course (e.g., childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, etc.). Alternatively, analyses of denominational or institutional perspectives on childhood or on aging might be presented, as might insights pertaining to themes such as religion and parenting or religion and end-of-life issues. Papers on other topics are also welcome and, presuming the analysis is sociological in nature, there is no restriction on the approach to be taken (whether it be theoretical, empirical, quantitative or qualitative).


*Sociology of Religion: Religious Leadership*

Session Description: This session focuses on the role of religious leadership. Who leads religious communities? The session will focus on the sociology of religion from the perspective of leaders to highlight the ways in which boundaries are maintained and / or negotiated. Those interested in applying to this session will consider questions regarding one single faith community across time, its formation / participation nationally or cross-nationally, or focus on the intersection of multi-faith relationships, which includes inter-faith dialogue, intra-faith heterogeneity, or the various ways in which diverse religious views influences one another. This session is not limited to institutionalized forms of religion, but also welcomes insights into less dominant forms of religious / spiritual participation, practice, and belonging.


--
Agata Piekosz M.A.
PhD Candidate
University of Toronto

*http://utoronto.academia.edu/AgataPiekosz
*





--
Agata Piekosz M.A.
PhD Candidate
University of Toronto

*http://utoronto.academia.edu/AgataPiekosz
*

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Someone has given a copy of the LPs and the book that CBS produced in 1966,=
The Irish Uprising /1916-1922. There's really no place for it in our libr=
ary.
Interesting that CBS undertook the project; I suspect that they discovered=
, in the wake of the American Civil War centennials, that history could be =
profitable when marketed.
Does anyone want these? All I ask is that you pay the postage, which would=
not be much within the US.
First come, first served - respond off-list at jrogers[at]stthomas.edu
Please don't respond on- list

Jim Rogers


James S. Rogers
UST Center for Irish Studies
Editor, New Hibernia Review
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