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14 October 2012 23:57  
  
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From: Patrick Maume
Dear Moderator,
I am doing some sporadic research at present on the coverage of the
Famine in the English Catholic weekly THE TABLET, and while doing this I
have just come across an editorial (24 January 1846 pp50-51) headed "No
Irish Need Apply", which is replying to an article in the Dublin NATION
denouncing advertisements for servants in English papers containing the
phrase "No Irish Need Apply". The editor recalls that some 2-3 years
previously (exact date not given) he had got into a controversy with Daniel
O'Connell after publishing an advertisement of this type. He argues that
while he himself is generally pro-Irish (and employs Irish servants in his
own household) Irish commentators should realise that a large number of
Irish immigrants in Britain, for reasons partly outside their own control,
do not make suitable servants, that people who put in "No Irish Need Apply"
ads are usually influenced by unfortunate experiences with servants of this
type, and that in the last resort it is an unacceptable infringement on
people's freedom that they should not be entitled to choose the servants
with whom they share their households on whatever principles they see fit.
What makes this all the more interesting is that Frederick Lucas, the
editor of THE TABLET, was extremely sympathetic to Irish nationalism - he
was probably the only prominent English commentator (other than Chartists)
to support Repeal, his editorials in THE TABLET some months later appealing
for famine relief in Ireland are really scarifying in their descriptions of
the plight of the Irish and their declarations that those (including both
English Catholics and Cabinet Ministers) who do not help them in their hour
of need will go to Hell, and in 1850 Lucas actually moved (complete with
the TABLET) to Dublin, campaigned for tenant right for Irish farmers, and
became an Irish nationalist MP for Meath before dying in 1856.
Some years ago I remember a discussion on this list about whether "No
Irish Need Apply" advertisements had ever really existed. It seems from
this piece of evidence that they certainly did, at least in Britain in the
1840s.
I am very busy at present but I will transcribe the TABLET editorial
sometime and post it to this list so that the members can judge it for
themselves.
Best wishes,
Patrick
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12742  
15 October 2012 09:51  
  
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:51:46 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
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Patrick,
I would love to read that editorial whenever you get the chance, as well =
as the finished product whenever that may be. The "No Irish Need Apply" =
issue is a lingering controversy in North America, at least. In 2002, =
Richard Jensen published "'No Irish Need Apply': A Myth of =
Victimization," in which he argued that such signs didn't exist in North =
America. He has also been rather pugnacious in discussions on H-Ethnic =
on the topic. However, there are serious methodological problems with =
his article, and the topic remains open to debate, as far as I know =
(perhaps someone on the list knows more than I here). My own family has =
an oral history of recalling signs that read "No Jews, No Irish, No =
dogs" in late 19th/early 20th century Montr=E9al (though I have never =
seen an actual reference to one such sign, I might add). The entire =
NINA issue is one that has interested me sporadically for the past =
decade or so; if the signs were not, as Jensen argues, prevalent in =
North America, why are they so embedded in the Irish consciousness here? =
Is this akin to the mythical story of Vietnam veterans being spat upon =
when they returned to the USA? Research has suggested that this was an =
infrequent, if not exceedingly rare, occurrence. One then wonders about =
the role of gossip/urban legends in culture in terms of perpetuating =
victimhood, or as a rallying cry for a group that feels downtrodden.

Cheers,
Matthew.

On 2012-10-14, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Maume wrote:

> From: Patrick Maume
> Dear Moderator,
> I am doing some sporadic research at present on the coverage of the
> Famine in the English Catholic weekly THE TABLET, and while doing this =
I
> have just come across an editorial (24 January 1846 pp50-51) headed =
"No
> Irish Need Apply", which is replying to an article in the Dublin =
NATION
> denouncing advertisements for servants in English papers containing =
the
> phrase "No Irish Need Apply". The editor recalls that some 2-3 years
> previously (exact date not given) he had got into a controversy with =
Daniel
> O'Connell after publishing an advertisement of this type. He argues =
that
> while he himself is generally pro-Irish (and employs Irish servants in =
his
> own household) Irish commentators should realise that a large number =
of
> Irish immigrants in Britain, for reasons partly outside their own =
control,
> do not make suitable servants, that people who put in "No Irish Need =
Apply"
> ads are usually influenced by unfortunate experiences with servants of =
this
> type, and that in the last resort it is an unacceptable infringement =
on
> people's freedom that they should not be entitled to choose the =
servants
> with whom they share their households on whatever principles they see =
fit.
> What makes this all the more interesting is that Frederick Lucas, the
> editor of THE TABLET, was extremely sympathetic to Irish nationalism - =
he
> was probably the only prominent English commentator (other than =
Chartists)
> to support Repeal, his editorials in THE TABLET some months later =
appealing
> for famine relief in Ireland are really scarifying in their =
descriptions of
> the plight of the Irish and their declarations that those (including =
both
> English Catholics and Cabinet Ministers) who do not help them in their =
hour
> of need will go to Hell, and in 1850 Lucas actually moved (complete =
with
> the TABLET) to Dublin, campaigned for tenant right for Irish farmers, =
and
> became an Irish nationalist MP for Meath before dying in 1856.
> Some years ago I remember a discussion on this list about whether "No
> Irish Need Apply" advertisements had ever really existed. It seems =
from
> this piece of evidence that they certainly did, at least in Britain in =
the
> 1840s.
> I am very busy at present but I will transcribe the TABLET editorial
> sometime and post it to this list so that the members can judge it for
> themselves.
> Best wishes,
> Patrick
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12743  
15 October 2012 11:39  
  
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:39:12 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
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Similar advertisements appeared in early South Australian newspapers too. I=
can locate dates if people are interested.=0A=
Stephanie James =0A=
________________________________________=0A=
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] on behalf of Pa=
trick Maume [pmaume[at]GOOGLEMAIL.COM]=0A=
Sent: Monday, 15 October 2012 8:27 AM=0A=
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK=0A=
Subject: [IR-D] IR-D No Irish Need Apply=0A=
=0A=
From: Patrick Maume=0A=
Dear Moderator,=0A=
I am doing some sporadic research at present on the coverage of the=0A=
Famine in the English Catholic weekly THE TABLET, and while doing this I=0A=
have just come across an editorial (24 January 1846 pp50-51) headed "No=0A=
Irish Need Apply", which is replying to an article in the Dublin NATION=0A=
denouncing advertisements for servants in English papers containing the=0A=
phrase "No Irish Need Apply". The editor recalls that some 2-3 years=0A=
previously (exact date not given) he had got into a controversy with Daniel=
=0A=
O'Connell after publishing an advertisement of this type. He argues that=
=0A=
while he himself is generally pro-Irish (and employs Irish servants in his=
=0A=
own household) Irish commentators should realise that a large number of=0A=
Irish immigrants in Britain, for reasons partly outside their own control,=
=0A=
do not make suitable servants, that people who put in "No Irish Need Apply"=
=0A=
ads are usually influenced by unfortunate experiences with servants of this=
=0A=
type, and that in the last resort it is an unacceptable infringement on=0A=
people's freedom that they should not be entitled to choose the servants=0A=
with whom they share their households on whatever principles they see fit.=
=0A=
What makes this all the more interesting is that Frederick Lucas, the=0A=
editor of THE TABLET, was extremely sympathetic to Irish nationalism - he=
=0A=
was probably the only prominent English commentator (other than Chartists)=
=0A=
to support Repeal, his editorials in THE TABLET some months later appealing=
=0A=
for famine relief in Ireland are really scarifying in their descriptions of=
=0A=
the plight of the Irish and their declarations that those (including both=
=0A=
English Catholics and Cabinet Ministers) who do not help them in their hour=
=0A=
of need will go to Hell, and in 1850 Lucas actually moved (complete with=0A=
the TABLET) to Dublin, campaigned for tenant right for Irish farmers, and=
=0A=
became an Irish nationalist MP for Meath before dying in 1856.=0A=
Some years ago I remember a discussion on this list about whether "No=0A=
Irish Need Apply" advertisements had ever really existed. It seems from=0A=
this piece of evidence that they certainly did, at least in Britain in the=
=0A=
1840s.=0A=
I am very busy at present but I will transcribe the TABLET editorial=0A=
sometime and post it to this list so that the members can judge it for=0A=
themselves.=0A=
Best wishes,=0A=
Patrick=0A=
=0A=
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12744  
15 October 2012 13:07  
  
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:07:15 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
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List veterans will recall that the list had a thorough debate on Jensen's
article in 2007. It and other posts on the NINA issue are in the list
archives.

Bill Mulligan
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12745  
15 October 2012 15:53  
  
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:53:59 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
Re: IR-D No Irish Need Apply
  
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Just to add to that Patrick, I've done a little bit of work on Irish
migration to Wellington in New Zealand and, while I did not uncover ads
stating that 'No Irish Need Apply' what I did discover for the period =
1865
to 1915 was a very small number of ads (62) which communicated the same
sentiment i.e. 'English Only Need Apply' (36), 'English and Scotch =
Only...'
(2), 'Scotch Only...'(9). It might be of interest that there were also
examples of 'Irish Only...' (2), 'Protestants Only...'(2) and 'Catholics
Only...'(11). It may be telling that nearly all of these ads were for
domestic servants.

From memory there is some evidence of a small number of NINA ads =
elsewhere
in New Zealand.

=20

-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On =
Behalf
Of Matthew Barlow
Sent: 15 October 2012 13:52
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [IR-D] IR-D No Irish Need Apply

Patrick,
I would love to read that editorial whenever you get the chance, as well =
as
the finished product whenever that may be. The "No Irish Need Apply" =
issue
is a lingering controversy in North America, at least. In 2002, Richard
Jensen published "'No Irish Need Apply': A Myth of Victimization," in =
which
he argued that such signs didn't exist in North America. He has also =
been
rather pugnacious in discussions on H-Ethnic on the topic. However, =
there
are serious methodological problems with his article, and the topic =
remains
open to debate, as far as I know (perhaps someone on the list knows more
than I here). My own family has an oral history of recalling signs that
read "No Jews, No Irish, No dogs" in late 19th/early 20th century =
Montr=E9al
(though I have never seen an actual reference to one such sign, I might
add). The entire NINA issue is one that has interested me sporadically =
for
the past decade or so; if the signs were not, as Jensen argues, =
prevalent in
North America, why are they so embedded in the Irish consciousness here? =
Is
this akin to the mythical story of Vietnam veterans being spat upon when
they returned to the USA? Research has suggested that this was an
infrequent, if not exceedingly rare, occurrence. One then wonders about =
the
role of gossip/urban legends in culture in terms of perpetuating =
victimhood,
or as a rallying cry for a group that feels downtrodden.

Cheers,
Matthew.

On 2012-10-14, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Maume wrote:

> From: Patrick Maume
> Dear Moderator,
> I am doing some sporadic research at present on the coverage of the=20
> Famine in the English Catholic weekly THE TABLET, and while doing this =

> I have just come across an editorial (24 January 1846 pp50-51) headed=20
> "No Irish Need Apply", which is replying to an article in the Dublin=20
> NATION denouncing advertisements for servants in English papers=20
> containing the phrase "No Irish Need Apply". The editor recalls that=20
> some 2-3 years previously (exact date not given) he had got into a=20
> controversy with Daniel O'Connell after publishing an advertisement of =

> this type. He argues that while he himself is generally pro-Irish=20
> (and employs Irish servants in his own household) Irish commentators=20
> should realise that a large number of Irish immigrants in Britain, for =

> reasons partly outside their own control, do not make suitable =
servants,
that people who put in "No Irish Need Apply"
> ads are usually influenced by unfortunate experiences with servants of =

> this type, and that in the last resort it is an unacceptable=20
> infringement on people's freedom that they should not be entitled to=20
> choose the servants with whom they share their households on whatever
principles they see fit.
> What makes this all the more interesting is that Frederick Lucas, the =

> editor of THE TABLET, was extremely sympathetic to Irish nationalism - =

> he was probably the only prominent English commentator (other than=20
> Chartists) to support Repeal, his editorials in THE TABLET some months =

> later appealing for famine relief in Ireland are really scarifying in=20
> their descriptions of the plight of the Irish and their declarations=20
> that those (including both English Catholics and Cabinet Ministers)=20
> who do not help them in their hour of need will go to Hell, and in=20
> 1850 Lucas actually moved (complete with the TABLET) to Dublin,=20
> campaigned for tenant right for Irish farmers, and became an Irish
nationalist MP for Meath before dying in 1856.
> Some years ago I remember a discussion on this list about whether "No =

> Irish Need Apply" advertisements had ever really existed. It seems=20
> from this piece of evidence that they certainly did, at least in=20
> Britain in the 1840s.
> I am very busy at present but I will transcribe the TABLET editorial=20
> sometime and post it to this list so that the members can judge it for =

> themselves.
> Best wishes,
> Patrick
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12746  
15 October 2012 17:38  
  
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:38:45 +0200 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
Re: IR-D No Irish Need Apply
  
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Robert Ernst quotes two examples of American NINA ads in his "Immigrant Lif=
e in New York City 1825-1863" (1949; republished by Syracuse UP in 1994): h=
ttp://books.google.nl/books?id=3DXQLYeUUdceoC&pg=3DPA67&lpg=3DPA67&dq=3Drob=
ert+ernst+immigrant+no+irish+need&source=3Dbl&ots=3D0fR_ej-WUQ&sig=3D7bK9C_=
e2KTBKc5PxO8U868DFilE&hl=3Den&sa=3DX&ei=3DYBV8UNafI8LS0QXP44HYDg&ved=3D0CC0=
Q6AEwAA#v=3Donepage&q=3Drobert%20ernst%20immigrant%20no%20irish%20need&f=3D=
false . However, both examples concern Irish women and thus do not disprove=
Jensen's argument that there are almost no NINA ads concerning male applic=
ants (he himself lists two). Still, I agree that Jensen's article is not qu=
ite the last word on this issue.

I don't suppose it's very pertinent to this discussion (and it's certainly =
not proof that these signs were indeed common -- only that the memory/myth =
is persistent), but NINA crops up repeatedly in nineteenth-century fiction =
dealing with Famine immigration and Nativism in the US, for instance in Joh=
n Brennan's interesting novel "Erin Mor" (1892):

"The New Limerick Woolen Mills, having closed their doors, advertised for f=
ifty men to repair certain roadways and embankments; and in addition to a h=
undred Irishmen who rushed for the proffered fifty cents a day, four hundre=
d skilled American work men appeared upon the ground solicitous for employm=
ent upon any terms. Bill Percival, the gambler and Democratic wheel-horse, =
appeared at their head, and many of them were armed with bludgeons, and not=
a few with knives and pistols. At the demand of Mr. Percival, Mr. Cheney, =
of the mills, was compelled to hang a sign at the gate of the institution, =
reading=20

NO IRISH NEED APPLY!"

Just a while ago I also came across a rather mean-spirited subversive use o=
f the phrase in an 1897 issue of the virulent Montreal-based Irish Catholic=
newspaper "The True Witness and Catholic Chronicle":=20

"A Liverpool correspondent of a Dublin paper writes as follows:--The Orange=
men of Birkenhead are fit to be tied. For a long time they have been under =
a shadow of non-appreciation in that lively borough, and now they are deter=
mined to bear it no longer in silence, and in a resounding resolution they =
have told the world that they are suffering from a visitation of 'No Irish =
need apply' from the local authorities. Man after man, they state, has appl=
ied for admission to the Birkenhead police force, and man after man has bee=
n refused, for no other reason than that he was an Orangeman, and sent forw=
ard from the local lodge. A terrible thing, truly, to sit down and think ab=
out, that those who for years have held the gates of hospital, work-house, =
asylum, and every other public institution in this country against every Ca=
tholic applicant, no matter how worthy--those to whom the music 'No Irish n=
eed apply' was as sweet as 'No surrender'--should now have to dance to it. =
They manage these things better round Portadown."

Best,

Christopher Cusack

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Barlow"
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Sent: Monday, 15 October, 2012 2:51:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] IR-D No Irish Need Apply
> Patrick,
> I would love to read that editorial whenever you get the chance, as
> well as the finished product whenever that may be. The "No Irish Need
> Apply" issue is a lingering controversy in North America, at least. In
> 2002, Richard Jensen published "'No Irish Need Apply': A Myth of
> Victimization," in which he argued that such signs didn't exist in
> North America. He has also been rather pugnacious in discussions on
> H-Ethnic on the topic. However, there are serious methodological
> problems with his article, and the topic remains open to debate, as
> far as I know (perhaps someone on the list knows more than I here). My
> own family has an oral history of recalling signs that read "No Jews,
> No Irish, No dogs" in late 19th/early 20th century Montr=C3=A9al (though =
I
> have never seen an actual reference to one such sign, I might add).
> The entire NINA issue is one that has interested me sporadically for
> the past decade or so; if the signs were not, as Jensen argues,
> prevalent in North America, why are they so embedded in the Irish
> consciousness here? Is this akin to the mythical story of Vietnam
> veterans being spat upon when they returned to the USA? Research has
> suggested that this was an infrequent, if not exceedingly rare,
> occurrence. One then wonders about the role of gossip/urban legends in
> culture in terms of perpetuating victimhood, or as a rallying cry for
> a group that feels downtrodden.
>=20
> Cheers,
> Matthew.
>=20
> On 2012-10-14, at 5:57 PM, Patrick Maume wrote:
>=20
> > From: Patrick Maume
> > Dear Moderator,
> > I am doing some sporadic research at present on the coverage of the
> > Famine in the English Catholic weekly THE TABLET, and while doing
> > this I
> > have just come across an editorial (24 January 1846 pp50-51) headed
> > "No
> > Irish Need Apply", which is replying to an article in the Dublin
> > NATION
> > denouncing advertisements for servants in English papers containing
> > the
> > phrase "No Irish Need Apply". The editor recalls that some 2-3 years
> > previously (exact date not given) he had got into a controversy with
> > Daniel
> > O'Connell after publishing an advertisement of this type. He argues
> > that
> > while he himself is generally pro-Irish (and employs Irish servants
> > in his
> > own household) Irish commentators should realise that a large number
> > of
> > Irish immigrants in Britain, for reasons partly outside their own
> > control,
> > do not make suitable servants, that people who put in "No Irish Need
> > Apply"
> > ads are usually influenced by unfortunate experiences with servants
> > of this
> > type, and that in the last resort it is an unacceptable infringement
> > on
> > people's freedom that they should not be entitled to choose the
> > servants
> > with whom they share their households on whatever principles they
> > see fit.
> > What makes this all the more interesting is that Frederick Lucas,
> > the
> > editor of THE TABLET, was extremely sympathetic to Irish nationalism
> > - he
> > was probably the only prominent English commentator (other than
> > Chartists)
> > to support Repeal, his editorials in THE TABLET some months later
> > appealing
> > for famine relief in Ireland are really scarifying in their
> > descriptions of
> > the plight of the Irish and their declarations that those (including
> > both
> > English Catholics and Cabinet Ministers) who do not help them in
> > their hour
> > of need will go to Hell, and in 1850 Lucas actually moved (complete
> > with
> > the TABLET) to Dublin, campaigned for tenant right for Irish
> > farmers, and
> > became an Irish nationalist MP for Meath before dying in 1856.
> > Some years ago I remember a discussion on this list about whether
> > "No
> > Irish Need Apply" advertisements had ever really existed. It seems
> > from
> > this piece of evidence that they certainly did, at least in Britain
> > in the
> > 1840s.
> > I am very busy at present but I will transcribe the TABLET
> > editorial
> > sometime and post it to this list so that the members can judge it
> > for
> > themselves.
> > Best wishes,
> > Patrick

--=20
Christopher Cusack MA=20
PhD Candidate Relocated Remembrance=20
Department of English=20
Radboud University Nijmegen=20
P.O. Box 9103=20
6500 HD Nijmegen=20
The Netherlands=20

Tel.: (+31) (0) 24 361 2854=20

http://famineliterature.com=20
http://christophercusack.com

Global Legacies of the Great Irish Famine
Radboud University Nijmegen, The Netherlands
25-28 March 2013
http://faminelegacies.com
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12747  
16 October 2012 00:02  
  
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 23:02:13 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
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From: Patrick Maume
Here is the editorial. A couple of passing comments - Lucas was one of the
founders of the Society of St Vincent de Paul in England so his familiarity
with the local slums might well be greater than average, and the Carleton
novel referenced is PADDY-GO-EASY AND HIS WIFE NANCY.

TABLET Saturday 24 January 1846 pp50-51

=93NO IRISH NEED APPLY=94

The *Nation* of last Saturday has an article headed =93Irishmen in Englan=
d=94
which seems to require a few observations from us. The subject of the
writer=92s reflections is the universal ill-treatment of Irishmen in
England. Some of these remarks are undoubtedly just; all of them very
natural; and the writer concludes by a reference to that old-standing
grievance contained in the advertisement phrase with which this article is
headed.

Three or four years ago, when Mr O=92Connell took occasion to express
indignation at the use of this phrase in an advertisement that appeared in
our journal, and to draw from it the inference that the minds of Englishmen
were filled with hatred to the Irish people, we endeavoured to controvert
his assertion, and to prove that there was very little justice in that kind
of inference. The *Nation* has now, not for the first time, we believe,
taken up the same outcry, and we answer the *Nation* as we answered Mr
O=92Connell. None of our readers, we suppose, will think us indifferent o=
r
insensible to the sufferings of Irishmen, either in Ireland or in
England. But it is above all things necessary that on this, as on so many
other questions, many =93Irishmen in England=94 should form a clear concept=
ion
of their own faults as well as those of their neighbours. If it be true,
as it is true, that they have many grievances of which they may justly
demand the redress, they, like all other people, have much to reform in
themselves. The *Nation* has taken upon itself the honourable task of
correcting what is evil in the characteristics of its own countrymen, and
we are sure it is most zealous and sincere in its efforts to accomplish
this object as well as the other. It is, therefore, with considerable
regret that we see this journal lending itself to the support of a cry,
which we believe to be very groundless, and which, if it were successful *i=
n
the way it is put*, would be nothing less than the inauguration of a most
unbearable social tyranny.

We beg to ask the *Nation* this question: - Does the writer suppose that
the phrase alluded to is used in advertisement by persons who have had
*no*experience of Irish servants, or by persons who have had
*some* experience? To justify the complaint, it should be shown, or some
reasonable ground should be laid for believing, that without any
experience, good or bad, of the qualities of Irish servants, English
housekeepers, from a mere diabolical hatred of Ireland, resolve *a
priori*to confer no benefits upon poor Irish folk by employing them as
domestics?
Is it contended that this is the true state of the case? If it be so
contended, we can only say that we believe it to be utterly untrue. We
believe there is no personal hatred of Irish people in this country which
could operate very widely *in such a way as this*. It is true, there is a
large amount of religious fanaticism, which renders many families unwilling
to receive Catholic servants, English as well as Irish; but against the
Irish, *eo nomine*, we believe there is very little of such hatred as that
in question.

Indeed, we are convinced that there is in England a far greater personal
dislike of Scotchmen than of Irishmen; that the close, cautious, crafty
Scotch character is far more hated by our countrymen than the open,
generous, impulsive Irish character. There has always been a tendency in
England to show this particular kind of hatred against Scotchmen, and there
are periods in our history which are marked by popular demonstrations of
this kind of national dislike. The early part of the reign of James I is
one instance of this; and the rage into which, upon little or no
provocation, the middle and lower classes of Englishmen were excited
against Scotchmen by Wilkes and others, in the early part of the reign of
George III, may, taken with the former instance, suffice to prove that this
antipathy to Scotsmen has a very deep, settled, and permanent character
amongst us. But yet, Scotchmen have never found themselves excluded from
any employment for which they were fitted. If John Bull has a shrewd eye
for anything in the world, it is for his own comfort and his own
advantage. The Scotch have subserved this, and have, therefore, gained
employment amongst us in spite of our antipathy. If the Irish had done the
same as generally, we do really believe there is nothing in the antipathy
of religion which they could not have overcome as easily as the Scotch have
done the antipathy of race.

Taking, then, the second of the two alternatives with which we started,
is the *Nation* prepared to admit that the phrase, =93No Irish need apply=
=94,
is used generally as the result of some sort of experience, after trial and
some supposed proof, more or less considerable, of unfitness? If this is
admitted, what more frightful tyranny can there be, than the attempt to
compel English families to take into their homes servants whose habits and
manners do not suit them, and whose presence there would produce comfort to
neither party?

So far as our own experience goes, it is decidedly in favour of Irish
servants, and our hands are clean upon the matter. But we know others,
Catholics, staunch friends of Ireland, nay, Irishmen and Repealers, persons
anxious to have Catholic servants and wishing, besides, in their selection
of Catholic servants, to do an act of charity to some poor Irish person,
who, after several unsuccessful efforts, have reluctantly concluded that
the attempt was hopeless, and have given it up in despair.

The fact is, there are two classes of Irish labouring people in this
country, who differ about as widely as light and darkness. We speak now
of our own knowledge of persons in our own locality. There are many who
are industrious, methodical, orderly, thrifty and generous in the highest
degree; men who work hard for their earnings, and out of the surplus always
find something to dispose of in good and charitable works, as out of the
surplus of their time they always find some part to dispose of in personal
ministrations to those who have been less fortunate than themselves. We
pray God that our character in the sight of heaven and earth may always
stand as fairly as that of these labouring Irishmen.

But in the very locality to which we refer, ask any one to show you
where =93*the *Irish=94 live. He will take you to a miserable cul de sac,
which you are afraid of penetrating, and which, bad as it is physically,
bears a moral character even worse than that of its material
wretchedness. The Scotch, however poor, never herd together in this way.
They mix with those among whom they live; they try to improve themselves;
and if from the wild and desolate places of their native country they have
brought with them rude and untownlike habits, they labour to free
themselves from these as speedily as possible.

But a considerable proportion of the Irish poor associate themselves in
the manner we have described; and it is from such dens as these that many =
=96
(of course far from all, but in what proportion we know not) =96 future
servants form the habits and receive the training, against the
manifestations of which it is thought unreasonable for English housekeepers
to complain.

If the living together in these miserable masses were in all cases the
result of poverty, the case would be indeed a subject for unalloyed pity;
but it is not so. Many of the labourers who live thus are, during a
considerable part of the year, in the receipt of wages which, with a proper
degree of thrift, would enable them to make a much more decent appearance,
and with which a Scotchman would certainly lay a foundation for advancement
in the world. But our Irish friends must bear in mind that the habits of
Ballybrackan, that =93specimen of filth, neglect, and ignorance=94, which
Carleton has described in his recent novel, may be imported into this
country, and indeed are found on this side of the Channel in all their
primeval vigour.

The dens which we have described are such as for any lady to visit them
is an almost impossible achievement, succeeded only in rare cases of
extraordinary heroism. There are times when no policeman, who is at all
careful of his life, dare show himself within that sacred enclosure. And
though the respect felt and paid to the priestly character protects the
English Priest who ventures there a the worst moments of turbulence, it is,
we believe, generally admitted that in them no one but an Irish Priest can
operate with any great and signal success. The other day we had an
instance in our own neighbourhood which in part shows the character of many
of the inhabitants of these places. A charity meeting was called among
them to raise a subscription for some poor comrade in distress =96 for
charity is a virtue which these poor people have never lost sight of. A
drunken man happened to come into the room; a fight was the consequence,
and the result was that very shortly a connection of the person who was to
be benefited by the subscription had some of his ribs broken and his eye
almost bitten out by a savage in the form of a woman. The poor man
received the consolations of religion; but his wounds were mortal, and we
understand that he is since dead.

If from a particular locality we may draw any inference as to the
sentiments of the whole kingdom, we should say it is by the open exhibition
of this tumultuous and disorderly life that English people are led, or, as
it were, *compelled *to generalise their unfavourable experience of perhaps
one or two Irish servants. It is by such things as this that the
inhabitants of at least one large and populous suburb of London are led to
form their notions of the character and manners of the lower class of Irish
poor. What wonder, if when such pains are taken to give them an
unfavourable character of the Irish, they fall into the snare and are
misled.

We say deliberately, *misled*; for we know that this unfavourable opinion
is only one half of the truth. We have no doubt, that with a little
looking for, as good Irish servants may be got as can be obtained from any
other nation. But we have no doubt, also, that unless some pains are
taken, an experience is very likely to be obtained most unfavourable to
Irish servants, and conclusions arrived at which, though unfounded in their
generality, are yet most honest, most natural, and in strict accordance
with the way in which in this world most men do form their opinions of one
another. We have no doubt whatever that if, as a class, the poorest
English lived after the fashion of the poorest Irish, and presented as
large a portion of untrained materials for domestics, while, on the other
hand, the Irish poor as a general rule, exhibited the English tendency to
improvement, English servants would, whenever it was practicable, be
banished from English houses and their place supplied by Irish domestics.
Whatever be the strength, in some quarters of anti-Catholic fanaticism, the
majority of Englishmen have no extravagant antipathy either of race or of
religion, which would render it possible for them long to hold out against
anything conducive to their comfort and convenience. The widespread
aversion to Irish servants proves that either from a difference of habit,
or from some other causes, they have too frequently been found under trial
not to promote our comfort or convenience. Is there any great crime in
acting upon this experience?

The prejudice against Irish servants is not the only prejudice that
exists amongst English people in this part of the world. There is a great
aversion to London servants, and we think it very probable, that in this
metropolis there are as many persons who have formed a deliberate
resolution never to engage a domestic London-bred, as there are persons who
have taken a like resolution against Irish domestics. Do the Londoners,
then, hate the Londoners? No: but they love their own convenience, and
having frequently found that London servants are too knowing by half in the
ways of this wicked town, they make no scruple of putting them under the
ban, as readily as if they were Celts.
We are sorry to say what we have said on this subject, but our object in
saying it is entirely practical. The *Nation* is extensively read in this
country, and whatever is written on these matters by so able and
meritorious a journalist, is sure to produce its effect. We therefore
earnestly invite the *Nation* to turn its attention to the other side of
this question. =93Irishmen in England=94, we believe, suffer much from ou=
r
inhumanity and neglect. We have not got to *admit* this fact, because
there are few facts to which we have laboured to give greater prominence,
and for which we have striven with greater earnestness to find and apply a
remedy. But while we insist upon this injustice upon our parts, and shall
never cease to be clamourous for its removal, it would be gross inhumanity
to conceal the fact that many of the Irish in England really suffer as much
(or more) from themselves as they do from us; suffer from their own
thoughtlessness, their own imprudence, their tenacious adherence to their
own modes of life; their sturdy, or perhaps their unconscious and merely
careless, refusal to conform themselves to the manners of those among whom
they live, and from whose good opinion they are to expect their worldly
prosperity and success. When we say these things of Irishmen in England,
it will, of course, be understood that we speak only of a part, and that to
the generality of our assertions we make very wide and sweeping exceptions.
But we are sure they are true of so many, that the removing or blotting out
of the truth, and the creating another truth to take its place =96 things
which are in a great measure within the power of Irishmen themselves =96 ar=
e
the only way to strike at the root of the evil; and that no good whatever
is to be done by raising unreasonable outcries against English masters and
mistresses for refusing to endure things that are unendurable, and for
acting towards Irish people as they would towards any other people upon the
ordinary instincts of self-defence.
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16 October 2012 11:38  
  
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 10:38:47 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
Larkin Fellowship - Second Call
  
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Larkin Research Fellowship in Irish Studies.

A pioneering historian, inspiring teacher and one of the founders of =20
the American Conference for Irish Studies, Professor Emmet Larkin =20
(1927-2012) was truly one of the twentieth century's giants of Irish =20
historical studies. To honor his memory, ACIS and Dr. Larkin's friends =20
and family have created the Emmet Larkin Fellowship, an annual =20
research award of $700 to be given to an advanced Ph.D. student =20
working on a dissertation on an Irish topic (diaspora included) in =20
History or the Social Sciences at a North American institution. =20
Applicants should submit an application letter (a 2-3 page proposal =20
that explains the scope and goals of the project, the intended use of =20
the funds, and includes a brief, select bibliography), a CV and two =20
letters of recommendations to Michael de Nie, Chair, Larkin Fellowship =20
Committee, Department of History, University of West Georgia, =20
Carrollton, GA 30118: mdenie[at]westga.edu. Electronic submission is =20
encouraged. The deadline for submission is November 1, 2012.
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12749  
16 October 2012 16:36  
  
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:36:54 -0400 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
Re: Krause Fellowship - Second Call
  
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Krause Research Fellowship in Irish Studies

A poet and scholar most known for his extensive work on the life and
letters of Irish playwright Sean O'Casey, Professor David Krause
(1917-2011) mentored many students as a professor of English at Brown
University for more than three decades. In recognition of his renowned
record of scholarship and long service to Irish Studies, Dr. Krause's
friends and family have taken the lead in establishing an annual fellowship
of $700 to be awarded to an advanced Ph.D. student working on a
dissertation on Irish Literature (diaspora included) at a North American
institution. Applicants should submit an application letter (a 2-3 page
proposal that explains the scope and goals of the project, the intended use
of the funds, and includes a brief, select bibliography), a CV, and two
letters of recommendation to
Dr. Kathleen Costello-Sullivan, Chair, Krause Fellowship Committee,
Department of English, Le Moyne College, 1419 Salt Springs Road, Syracuse,
NY 13214: sullivkp[at]lemoyne.edu. Electronic submission is encouraged. The
deadline for submission is November 1, 2012.




--
Kate Costello-Sullivan
Associate Professor, English Dept
Director, Irish Literature Program
Le Moyne College
1419 Salt Springs Road
Syracuse NY 13214
315 445 4215
sullivkp[at]lemoyne.edu
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12750  
27 October 2012 00:56  
  
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:56:15 +0100 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
IR-D: Turkish Sultan's aid to Irish during Famine
  
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From: Patrick Maume
Dear All,
I have been doing some spare-time research on the coverage of the Famine
in the London TABLET (whose proprietor Frederick Lucas was one of the
The TABLET of 12 June 1847 p.374 has a report of a half-yearly meeting of
the London members of the Society of St Vincent de Paul at which an annual
report was read. This report states amongst other things that there was a
Conference [i.e. branch] of the SVP at Constantinople, and that on hearing
that some English merchants there intended to take up a collection for
Irish famine relief they approached them and offered to help. The
merchants refused because they wanted the collection to be exclusively
Protestant, whereupon the SVP announced they would hold their own
collection and the British merchants responded by announcing that their
collection would now be devoted to the poor in England rather than to
Ireland. According to the report, however, the SVP collection was
extremely successful, with "Christian, Muslim, Jew and Pagan" giving
generously; it is specifically stated that the Sultan gave =A31000.
This is a pretty near-contemporary report, and there would presumably be
some degree of communication between SVP branches; on the other hand, the
SVP was a loose federation, it's a long way from London to Constantinople
and plenty of scope for exaggeration. Does anyone know whether this can be
confirmed? If it is true, was the Sultan's donation identical to the =A310=
00
donation with which he is usually credited, or was that a separate donation
directly to British-based relief funds? If the latter, this would mean
that here is a second donation from the Sultan which has escaped notice
(possibly because sums sent from Constantinople by the SVP might be
credited en bloc to the Society rather than to the individual donors.)
Those on the lookout for other exotic donors to Irish famine relief may
care to notice that on the previous page of the same issue of the TABLET
(12 June 1847 p.373) there is a brief note stating that subscriptions
raised in India for famine relief in Ireland included large sums given by
"Sepoys" (i.e. native Indian soldiers) and that =A370 was subscribed at
"Bushire in Persia" (i.e. the port of Bushehr on the Persian Gulf;
apparently the East India Company had a strong presence there, so the
subscribers may have been British or Company employees rather than native
Persians).
I'd be grateful for any comments/further information on this, and I hope
the references may be useful to some other researcher.
Best wishes,
Patrick
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12751  
30 October 2012 22:08  
  
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 22:08:16 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1210.txt]
  
FW: publication
  
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Forwarded on behalf of Grainne O=E2=80=99Keeffe

=20


Lelourec, Lesley / O'Keeffe-Vigneron, Gr=C3=A1inne (eds)


Ireland and Victims


Confronting the Past, Forging the Future
Foreword by Marianne Elliott

Collection: Reimagining Ireland =
- volume 45

Ann=C3=A9e de publication: 2012

=20


Texte de pr=C3=A9sentation


Recent years have seen the topic of victims and victimhood brought to =
the fore on the island of Ireland, both in the North with the =
publication of the controversial Eames/Bradley report dealing with =
victims of the Troubles, and in the Republic with the publication of the =
final Ryan Report on institutional abuse.
In this collection, drawing on the cross-disciplinary nature of Irish =
studies, contributors from the fields of history, literary and cultural =
studies, politics, sociology and civic society provide multifaceted =
perspectives from which to examine the issue of victimhood in Ireland. =
The volume explores in detail how a traumatic past, whether repressed or =
proclaimed, can continue to impact on the present, both at a personal =
and societal level.


Contenu


Contents: Marianne Elliott: Foreword - Lesley Lelourec/Gr=C3=A1inne =
O'Keeffe-Vigneron: Ireland and Victims: Addressing the Issues - Claire =
Dubois: 'The Wooing of Erin': Women as Victims in the Visual Arts of the =
Eighteenth and Nineteenth Centuries - Richard S. Grayson: Veterans as =
Victims: The Experiences and Rediscovery of Irish Nationalists in the =
British Military in 1914-1918 - Charlotte Barcat: 'A Truth for the =
World': From Widgery to Saville, the Campaign for Truth and Justice =
about Bloody Sunday - Stephen Hopkins: Victims and Memoir-Writing: =
Leaving the Troubles Behind? - St=C3=A9phane Jousni: Haunting Memories =
and Haunted Narratives: Ghost Languages and Forbidden Tongues in Hugo =
Hamilton's Autobiographies - Jo Dove/John M. Kabia/Rosie Aubrey: =
Dialogue in Conflict Transformation: A Journey towards Understanding and =
Humanization - Graham Dawson: Storytelling, Imaginative Fiction and the =
Representation of Victims of the Irish Troubles: A Cultural Analysis of =
Deirdre Madden's One by One in the Darkness - Ryszard Bartnik: 'No =
Bones' on the Road to Recovery: Anna Burns' Socio-Psychological Study of =
the Northern Irish Predicament - Victoria Connor: 'A School for Bad =
Boys': The Representation of the Industrial School System in Patrick =
McCabe's The Butcher Boy - Fabrice Mourlon: Assessing the Achievements =
of Assistance to the Victims of the Conflict in Northern Ireland - =
Agn=C3=A8s Maillot: Torture, Coercion and Intimidation: The =
Assassination of Robert McCartney - D=C3=A9borah Vandewoude: The =
Industrial Schools in the Republic of Ireland: From Idealistic Salvation =
to Institutional Abuse - Val=C3=A9rie Morisson: Willie Doherty: =
Troublesome Portraits/Schizoid Identities - Emma Grey: 'Returning to the =
Same Places': Trauma in the Work of Willie Doherty - Trevor Parkhill: =
The Ulster Museum History Galleries and Post-Conflict Community =
Engagement - H=C3=A9l=C3=A8ne Alfaro: The Contribution of Community Arts =
Activity to the Reconciliation Process.


http://www.peterlang.com/index.cfm?event=3Dcmp.ccc.seitenstruktur.details=
eiten =
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12752  
1 November 2012 13:19  
  
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:19:49 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
CFP, EFACIS 2013 Conference, NUI, Galway, June 5-8
  
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Final Call for Papers

The Ninth Conference of

EFACIS
The European Federation of Associations and Centres of Irish Studies


TOWARDS 2016: OLD AND NEW IRELANDS

5-8 JUNE 2013, NATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF IRELAND, GALWAY


Keynote Lectures: Professor Diarmaid Ferriter (Professor of Modern Irish =
History, University College Dublin) and Dr. Alan Ahearne (Member of the C=
ommission of the Central Bank of Ireland and Special Advisor to former Ir=
ish Minister for Finance (2008-2011) Brian Lenihan)

Confirmed Participating Artistes: Director and Novelist Neil Jordan; Nove=
list and Playwright Patrick McCabe; Theatre director and Druid Theatre co=
-founder Garry Hynes.

1916 was a crucial moment in the development of modern Ireland. As we app=
roach its centenary, the continuing resonance of events in that year to c=
ontemporary Ireland was evident in the November 18 2010 editorial of The =
Irish Times the day after it was announced Ireland was to receive a finan=
cial bailout from the EU and IMF. =E2=80=98Was it for this?=E2=80=99, the=
editorial asked, =E2=80=98the men of 1916 died=E2=80=99 thus highlightin=
g the gendering of commemoration. This conference invites contributions o=
n the theme of =E2=80=98TOWARDS 2016: OLD AND NEW IRELANDS=E2=80=99 from =
a variety of perspectives and disciplines including history, gender studi=
es, politics, economics, diaspora studies, cultural geography, digital cu=
lture, literature, theatre, folklore, film and media studies, language, s=
ociology, philosophy, psychology, trauma studies, theology, ecocriticism,=
sport and cultural studies. This is in line with the concern of EFACIS t=
o develop, in a European context, teaching and research in Irish Studies =
as an interdisciplinary and multidisciplinary field of study. It is envis=
aged that a series of publications further to this conference will be pub=
lished to coincide with the centenary in 2016.

Themed Panels already proposed:=20
Old and New Marginalities in Contemporary Irish Literature and Film: The =
Materiality of Nationalities and Ethnicities (Convenor: Prof. Sarah Heinz=
and Mark Schmitt (University of Mannheim, Germany) at sarah.heinz[at]uni-ma=
nnheim.de);
The Irish Economy after the Crisis (Convenor: Prof. Dr. Jan Van Hove (KU =
Leuven, Leuven Centre for Irish Studies) at jan.vanhove[at]econ.kuleuven.be)=
;=20
On the Road to 2016: Commemoration and =E2=80=98New Ways to Kill Your Fat=
her=E2=80=99 (Convenor: Prof. Hedda Friberg-Harnesk (Mid Sweden Universit=
y) at hedda.friberg[at]miun.se);=20
The Backward Look in Contemporary Irish Fiction (Convenor: Prof. Sylvie M=
ikowski (Universit=C3=A9 de Reims Champagne-Ardenne) at sylvie.mikowski[at]u=
niv-reims.fr);=20
Trauma, Resilience and Transformation (Convenor: Prof. Dr. Patrick Luyten=
(KU Leuven, Leuven Centre for Irish Studies) at patrick.luyten[at]ppw.kuleu=
ven.be);=20
Ireland and Europe, then and now (Convenor: Prof. Karin Fischer (Universi=
ty of Orl=C3=A9ans, France) at Karin.Fischer[at]univ-orleans.fr);=20
Irish sport, 1916-2016: contested space and competing identities (Conveno=
r: Dr. Philip Dine (NUI, Galway) at philip.dine[at]nuigalway.ie);=20
Human, Cultural and Spatial Connections in Post-conflict Northern Ireland=
(Convenor: Dr. Fabrice Mourlon at fabricemourlon[at]me.com);
Marking, Commemorating, Celebrating the Decade of Centenaries in Museums =
(Convenor: Dr. Karine Bigand (Aix-Marseille Universit=C3=A9, France) at k=
arine.bigand[at]univ-amu.fr);
Old or New Ireland? Situating John McGahern (Convenor: Dr. Eamon Maher (I=
T Tallaght) at eamon.maher[at]ittdublin.ie);
=E2=80=9CA stone in the midst of all=E2=80=9D - Ecocritical Discourses in=
Ireland (Convenor: Dr. Tina-Karen Pusse (NUI, Galway) at Tina-Karen.Puss=
e[at]nuigalway.ie);
Teanga agus Cult=C3=BAr na Gaeilge 1916-2016: i dtreo na =E2=80=98nGaeilg=
=C3=AD=E2=80=99? (Tion=C3=B3la=C3=AD: Dr Jeannine Woods, (O=C3=89, Gailli=
mh) ag jeannine.woods[at]nuigalway.ie);
Visions of another Ireland: marginal spaces in Irish film (Convenor: Dr. =
Conn Holohan, (NUI, Galway) at conn.holohan[at]nuigalway.ie)
Deadline for Themed Panel Proposals: 1st February 2013. See www.conferenc=
e.ie for further info

Abstracts: If you would like to propose a paper (in English or Irish, not=
exceeding 20 minutes), please submit your title and an abstract of 250 w=
ords accompanied by a short biographical sketch as a PDF document. In add=
ition to the presentation of papers we invite contributions to alternativ=
e forms of debate and discussion: e.g. proposals for themed panels, poste=
r sessions etc.

Deadline for submission of proposals and abstracts: 1st February 2013. Fo=
r abstract and panel proposal submission, please see www.conference.ie

Five EFACIS Postgraduate Scholarships to the value of =E2=82=AC200 each a=
re available to participate in the EFACIS 2013 Conference. Further inform=
ation is available on the conference website at www.conference.ie

For further information please contact:=20
Dr. Se=C3=A1n Crosson,=20
Huston School of Film & Digital Media,=20
National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland
E-mail: sean.crosson[at]nuigalway.ie
Tel: +353 (0) 91495687

NB: Only paid-up members of EFACIS are eligible to read papers at this co=
nference. Membership subscriptions for EFACIS may be taken out or renewed=
with conference registration. Membership of EFACIS is =E2=82=AC30 for in=
dividuals, =E2=82=AC15 for graduate/postgraduate students and membership =
through institutional affiliation (institutes and research centres). To j=
oin EFACIS beforehand, please contact the EFACIS Treasurer, Mark Schreibe=
r, schreiber[at]anglistik.uni-siegen.de EFACIS 2013 conferences delegates ma=
y respond to the general conference call or calls for specific panels but=
may only present one paper at the conference.
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2 November 2012 19:40  
  
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London Irish Fictions: Narrative, Diaspora and Identity
  
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Dear Bill,

List members may be interested in my book recently published by =
Liverpool University Press.=20

Would you be able to distribute the information copied below please?

Regards,

Tony



Dr. Tony Murray

Director, Irish Studies Centre

London Metropolitan University

Tower Building

Holloway Rd

London N7 8DB


Tel: 020 7133 2593

www.londonmet.ac.uk/irishstudiescentre

www.londonmet.ac.uk/research-units/iset/staff/murray.cfm




=20



London Irish Fictions: Narrative, Diaspora and Identity

(Liverpool University Press, 2012)

=20

This is the first book about the literature of the Irish in London. By =
examining over 30 novels, short stories and autobiographies set in =
London since the Second World War, London Irish Fictions investigates =
the complex psychological landscapes of belonging and cultural =
allegiance found in these unique and intensely personal perspectives on =
the Irish experience of migration. As well as bringing new research to =
bear on the work of established Irish writers such as Edna O=92Brien, =
John McGahern and Emma Donoghue, this study reveals a fascinating and =
hitherto unexplored literature, diverse in form and content.

By synthesising theories of narrative and diaspora into a new =
methodological approach to the study of migration, London Irish Fictions =
sheds new light on the ways in which migrant identities are negotiated, =
mediated and represented through literature. It also examines the =
specific role that the metropolis plays in literary portrayals of =
migrant experience as an arena for the performance of Irishness, as a =
catalyst in transformations of Irishness and as an intrinsic component =
of second-generation Irish identities. Furthermore, by analysing the =
central role of narrative in configuring migrant cultures and =
identities, it reassesses notions of exile, escape and return in Irish =
culture more generally. In this regard, it has particular relevance to =
current debates on migration and multiculturalism in both Britain and =
Ireland, especially in the wake of an emerging new phase of Irish =
migration in the post-=91Celtic Tiger=92 era.

A rich, sympathetic and nuanced exploration of that strange blend of =
exile and escape, of suffering and play-acting, which characterises the =
Irish migrant experience in London [=85] a valuable, unprecedented and =
necessary book.

Declan Kiberd, Donald and Marilyn Keough Professor of Irish Studies, =
Notre Dame University

=20

Tony Murray is Director of the Irish Studies Centre at London =
Metropolitan University

=20

Further details about the book can be found here: =
http://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/index.php/?option=3Dcom_wrapper&=
view=3Dwrapper&Itemid=3D54&AS1=3D9781846318313

=20

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12754  
5 November 2012 20:28  
  
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 20:28:45 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
Irish gone astray.
  
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Greetings, all, at the Irish Diaspora list-serv ~

Here is news of a new book by Emma Donoghue on the subject of 'displaced
persons' ~
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/books/review/astray-by-emma-donoghue.html?_r=0

Also, this recent profile of the writer in a respected (Canadian) reference
series ~
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/emma-donoghue


Best wishes,
MEM
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12755  
8 November 2012 09:38  
  
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:38:35 -0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
Final CFP EFACIS 2013, 5-8 June, NUI, Galway
  
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Final Call for Papers

=20

The Ninth Conference of

=20

EFACIS

The European Federation of Associations and Centres of Irish Studies

=20

=20

TOWARDS 2016: OLD AND NEW IRELANDS

=20

5-8 JUNE 2013, NATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF IRELAND, GALWAY

=20

=20

Keynote Lectures: Professor Diarmaid Ferriter (Professor of Modern Irish =
History, University College Dublin) and Dr. Alan Ahearne (Member of the =
Commission of the Central Bank of Ireland and Special Advisor to former =
Irish Minister for Finance (2008-2011) Brian Lenihan)

=20

Confirmed Participating Artistes: Director and Novelist Neil Jordan; =
Novelist and Playwright Patrick McCabe; Theatre director and Druid =
Theatre co-founder Garry Hynes.

=20

1916 was a crucial moment in the development of modern Ireland. As we =
approach its centenary, the continuing resonance of events in that year =
to contemporary Ireland was evident in the November 18 2010 editorial of =
The Irish Times the day after it was announced Ireland was to receive a =
financial bailout from the EU and IMF. 'Was it for this?', the editorial =
asked, 'the men of 1916 died' thus highlighting the gendering of =
commemoration. This conference invites contributions on the theme of =
'TOWARDS 2016: OLD AND NEW IRELANDS' from a variety of perspectives and =
disciplines including history, gender studies, politics, economics, =
diaspora studies, cultural geography, digital culture, literature, =
theatre, folklore, film and media studies, language, sociology, =
philosophy, psychology, trauma studies, theology, ecocriticism, sport =
and cultural studies. This is in line with the concern of EFACIS to =
develop, in a European context, teaching and research in Irish Studies =
as an interdisciplinary and multidisciplinary field of study. It is =
envisaged that a series of publications further to this conference will =
be published to coincide with the centenary in 2016.

=20

Themed Panels already proposed:=20

*=09
Old and New Marginalities in Contemporary Irish Literature and Film: =
The Materiality of Nationalities and Ethnicities (Convenor: Prof. Sarah =
Heinz and Mark Schmitt (University of Mannheim, Germany) at =
sarah.heinz[at]uni-mannheim.de);
*=09
The Irish Economy after the Crisis (Convenor: Prof. Dr. Jan Van Hove =
(KU Leuven, Leuven Centre for Irish Studies) at =
jan.vanhove[at]econ.kuleuven.be);=20
*=09
On the Road to 2016: Commemoration and 'New Ways to Kill Your Father' =
(Convenor: Prof. Hedda Friberg-Harnesk (Mid Sweden University) at =
hedda.friberg[at]miun.se);=20
*=09
The Backward Look in Contemporary Irish Fiction (Convenor: Prof. Sylvie =
Mikowski (Universit=E9 de Reims Champagne-Ardenne) at =
sylvie.mikowski[at]univ-reims.fr);=20
*=09
Trauma, Resilience and Transformation (Convenor: Prof. Dr. Patrick =
Luyten (KU Leuven, Leuven Centre for Irish Studies) at =
patrick.luyten[at]ppw.kuleuven.be);=20
*=09
Ireland and Europe, then and now (Convenor: Prof. Karin Fischer =
(University of Orl=E9ans, France) at Karin.Fischer[at]univ-orleans.fr);=20
*=09
Irish sport, 1916-2016: contested space and competing identities =
(Convenor: Dr. Philip Dine (NUI, Galway) at philip.dine[at]nuigalway.ie);=20
*=09
Human, Cultural and Spatial Connections in Post-conflict Northern =
Ireland (Convenor: Dr. Fabrice Mourlon at fabricemourlon[at]me.com);
*=09
Marking, Commemorating, Celebrating the Decade of Centenaries in =
Museums (Convenor: Dr. Karine Bigand (Aix-Marseille Universit=E9, =
France) at karine.bigand[at]univ-amu.fr);
*=09
Old or New Ireland? Situating John McGahern (Convenor: Dr. Eamon Maher =
(IT Tallaght) at eamon.maher[at]ittdublin.ie);
*=09
"A stone in the midst of all" - Ecocritical Discourses in Ireland =
(Convenor: Dr. Tina-Karen Pusse (NUI, Galway) at =
Tina-Karen.Pusse[at]nuigalway.ie);
*=09
Teanga agus Cult=FAr na Gaeilge 1916-2016: i dtreo na 'nGaeilg=ED'? =
(Tion=F3la=ED: Dr Jeannine Woods, (O=C9, Gaillimh) ag =
jeannine.woods[at]nuigalway.ie);
*=09
Visions of another Ireland: marginal spaces in Irish film (Convenor: =
Dr. Conn Holohan, (NUI, Galway) at conn.holohan[at]nuigalway.ie)

Deadline for Themed Panel Proposals: 1st February 2013. See =
www.conference.ie for further info

=20

Abstracts: If you would like to propose a paper (in English or Irish, =
not exceeding 20 minutes), please submit your title and an abstract of =
250 words accompanied by a short biographical sketch as a PDF document. =
In addition to the presentation of papers we invite contributions to =
alternative forms of debate and discussion: e.g. proposals for themed =
panels, poster sessions etc.

=20

Deadline for submission of proposals and abstracts: 1st February 2013. =
For abstract and panel proposal submission, please see www.conference.ie

=20

Five EFACIS Postgraduate Scholarships to the value of EUR200 each are =
available to participate in the EFACIS 2013 Conference. Further =
information is available on the conference website at www.conference.ie =
=20

=20

For further information please contact:=20

Dr. Se=E1n Crosson,=20

Huston School of Film & Digital Media,=20

National University of Ireland, Galway. Ireland

E-mail: sean.crosson[at]nuigalway.ie

Tel: +353 (0) 91495687

=20

NB: Only paid-up members of EFACIS are eligible to read papers at this =
conference. Membership subscriptions for EFACIS may be taken out or =
renewed with conference registration. Membership of EFACIS is EUR30 for =
individuals, EUR15 for graduate/postgraduate students and membership =
through institutional affiliation (institutes and research centres). To =
join EFACIS beforehand, please contact the EFACIS Treasurer, Mark =
Schreiber, schreiber[at]anglistik.uni-siegen.de =
EFACIS 2013 conferences =
delegates may respond to the general conference call or calls for =
specific panels but may only present one paper at the conference.

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20
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12756  
10 November 2012 22:20  
  
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:20:05 -0600 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
CFP: Eire-Ireland: Irish Crime
  
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Sent on behalf of James S. Donnelly

=20

We are planning a special issue of the journal Eire-Ireland in 2014 =
devoted
to the subject of Irish crime since 1921.

=20

=20

CFP: Eire-Ireland: Irish Crime=20

=C9ire-Ireland: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Irish Studies welcomes
submissions for a 2014 special issue on Irish Crime from 1921 to the
present. The guest editors seek essays that explore crime and =
criminality
in Ireland from historical and literary perspectives, as well as =
submissions
that draw upon methods from criminology, geography, and film studies, =
among
others, to broaden our understanding of the nature and significance of =
crime
in modern Irish society and culture. We especially welcome articles =
that
examine such areas as crimes against persons and property, white-collar
crime, organized crime, and the drugs economy, along with studies that =
draw
connections or distinctions between =93ordinary=94 crime and =
=93political=94 crime,
or essays that trace the changing legal, cultural, and popular =
definitions
of crime. Likewise of interest are contributions that explore Irish =
crime
in literature and film, the relationship between journalism and the =
public
perception of crime, as well as any submission that brings to light new
sources and methods to help illustrate the importance of crime to Irish
studies.

=20

The deadline for submissions (approximately 8,000 words) is 1 November =
2013.
All contributions are subject to peer review. Please send submissions =
to
icross[at]tcd.ie and
w.meier[at]tcu.edu

=20

Contact:

=20

Prof. Ian Campbell Ross

Trinity College Dublin

icross[at]tcd.ie

=20

Prof. William Meier

Texas Christian University

w.meier[at]tcu.edu

=20

=20

William H. Mulligan, Jr.=20

Professor of History

MSU Alumni Association Distinguished Researcher 2012

Moderator, Irish Diaspora Discussion List [IR-D[at]jiscmail.ac.uk]=20

Murray State University=20

Murray KY 42071-3341 USA

office phone 1-270-809-6571

dept phone 1-270-809-2231

fax 1-270-809-6587

=20
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12757  
18 November 2012 09:57  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:57:55 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
Irish in the Civil War--question
  
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Hello all,

I've had an inquiry regarding an Irish-born soldier in the 83rd NY infantry
(Company D) during the Civil War. The student is doing research on a
Thomas Curry and has traced him through the Battle of the Wilderness (1864)
and to imprisonment in the Andersonville Prison Camp in Georgia (where he
apparently died and was buried erroneously under the name "Thomas Carey.")

I was wondering if there is generally a "go to" book on Irish
service/regiments in the American Civil War, and particularly if there is
work (or better an archival source) on the history of recent 19th c
immigrants joining the Union: Curry apparently immigrated sometime in the
1850s from Cavan. (I gather that this figure was a foot soldier, so I don't
know that he would show up in such sources, but it is always amazing to
find what is out there....) Any suggestions you can offer from your
collective expertise would be much appreciated, and I will pass it on.

Wishing everyone to whom it is applicable a Happy Thanksgiving, and a
generally good end of semester to all!

Best wishes,
Kate

--
Kate Costello-Sullivan
Associate Professor, English Dept
Director, Irish Literature Program
Le Moyne College
1419 Salt Springs Road
Syracuse NY 13214
315 445 4215
sullivkp[at]lemoyne.edu
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12758  
18 November 2012 11:12  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 11:12:41 -0500 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
Re: Irish in the Civil War--question
  
Sender: The Irish Diaspora Studies List
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Kate,

I can't remember specfics, but last summer I worked in the National Archive=
s in College Park, MD. I noticed then that there seemed to be such records=
there. I'd recommend an email to a librarian there. I found the libraria=
n I contacted to be incredibly helpful about researching other kinds of "st=
uff." =20

And Happy Thanksgiving to you and all.

Ed Hagan

________________________________________
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Co=
stello-Sullivan, Kathleen [sullivkp[at]LEMOYNE.EDU]
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:57 AM
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Irish in the Civil War--question

Hello all,

I've had an inquiry regarding an Irish-born soldier in the 83rd NY infantry
(Company D) during the Civil War. The student is doing research on a
Thomas Curry and has traced him through the Battle of the Wilderness (1864)
and to imprisonment in the Andersonville Prison Camp in Georgia (where he
apparently died and was buried erroneously under the name "Thomas Carey.")

I was wondering if there is generally a "go to" book on Irish
service/regiments in the American Civil War, and particularly if there is
work (or better an archival source) on the history of recent 19th c
immigrants joining the Union: Curry apparently immigrated sometime in the
1850s from Cavan. (I gather that this figure was a foot soldier, so I don't
know that he would show up in such sources, but it is always amazing to
find what is out there....) Any suggestions you can offer from your
collective expertise would be much appreciated, and I will pass it on.

Wishing everyone to whom it is applicable a Happy Thanksgiving, and a
generally good end of semester to all!

Best wishes,
Kate

--
Kate Costello-Sullivan
Associate Professor, English Dept
Director, Irish Literature Program
Le Moyne College
1419 Salt Springs Road
Syracuse NY 13214
315 445 4215
sullivkp[at]lemoyne.edu=
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12759  
18 November 2012 12:12  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:12:07 -0600 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
Re: Irish in the Civil War--question
  
Sender: The Irish Diaspora Studies List
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Since it was New York unit, you might try the NY Veterans Museum in Saratoga
Springs. Their website is: http://dmna.ny.gov/historic/mil-hist.htm

Bill Mulligan

-----Original Message-----
From: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [mailto:IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf
Of Costello-Sullivan, Kathleen
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:58 AM
To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [IR-D] Irish in the Civil War--question

Hello all,

I've had an inquiry regarding an Irish-born soldier in the 83rd NY infantry
(Company D) during the Civil War. The student is doing research on a Thomas
Curry and has traced him through the Battle of the Wilderness (1864) and to
imprisonment in the Andersonville Prison Camp in Georgia (where he
apparently died and was buried erroneously under the name "Thomas Carey.")

I was wondering if there is generally a "go to" book on Irish
service/regiments in the American Civil War, and particularly if there is
work (or better an archival source) on the history of recent 19th c
immigrants joining the Union: Curry apparently immigrated sometime in the
1850s from Cavan. (I gather that this figure was a foot soldier, so I don't
know that he would show up in such sources, but it is always amazing to find
what is out there....) Any suggestions you can offer from your collective
expertise would be much appreciated, and I will pass it on.

Wishing everyone to whom it is applicable a Happy Thanksgiving, and a
generally good end of semester to all!

Best wishes,
Kate

--
Kate Costello-Sullivan
Associate Professor, English Dept
Director, Irish Literature Program
Le Moyne College
1419 Salt Springs Road
Syracuse NY 13214
315 445 4215
sullivkp[at]lemoyne.edu
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12760  
18 November 2012 20:26  
  
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:26:09 +0000 Reply-To: The Irish Diaspora Studies List [IR-DLOG1211.txt]
  
Survey of current Irish emigrants
  
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Dear all



Thanks to funding from the Irish Research Council I am running (with Dr Iri=
al Glynn and Tom=E1s Kelly) a project on current Irish emigration for the t=
welve months October 2012 - September 2013.



We will be using the exciting new Small Areas data from the 2011 Census (fo=
r more, see http://census.cso.ie/sapmap/) to construct a sample of Irish ho=
useholds which is as representative as we can make it (Tom=E1s who is a mat=
hematician, is constructing a cluster analysis in order to map this), then =
surveying households to identify those with household members outside the c=
ountry (including those with a family member who is a 'commuter migrant' - =
say, a husband or wife who is actually working outside the country and retu=
rning home on a frequent basis). The idea is to conduct an online survey of=
those migrants and a certain number of follow-up Skype interviews. We will=
also be using other methods to find, survey and conduct interviews with m=
igrants in destination countries - NGOs, online social networks, as well as=
contacting key informants, ethnic media etc.



We are interested in profiling today's generation of emigrants in terms of =
contrasts and continuities compared to the previous waves, notably the 1950=
s and 1980s, and in exploring the influence of factors such as education, s=
ocial class and gender in people's migration decisions. For instance, is gl=
obalisation acting as a disincentive for less well qualified young people t=
o move when they will be competing in global cities such as London for jobs=
where wages and working conditions have deteriorated? Are the better-off a=
nd better-educated both more likely to leave and more likely to return than=
those from a more marginalised socio-educational background? Currently ava=
ilable data falls far short of offering detailed answers to any of these qu=
estions.



A pilot version of our online survey for migrants (there is a different one=
for households in Ireland, which we will be using for the first part of ou=
r project) is online at

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?fromEmail=3Dtrue&formkey=3DdHl=
zemhNU0ZETlN0Wm93NVpVNUxLa3c6MQ.



There are real lacunae in our current knowledge and understanding of emigra=
tion from Ireland today and we hope that this project will address some of =
these.



Other links:



Excellent statistical overview by Dr Mary Gilmartin of NUIM of current Iris=
h emigration http://www.nuim.ie/nirsa/research/documents/WP69_The_changing_=
face_of_Irish_migration_2000_2012.pdf

Irish Times piece by myself http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/generationemigr=
ation/2012/10/23/we-need-to-know-a-lot-more-about-emigration/



I would be most grateful for any feedback, suggestions, criticism and ideas=
that might enable us to do the best possible job on this research.



Best



Piaras



Piaras Mac =C9inr=ED, BA, M=E8sL (Paris), DEA (Paris), PhD (London)

L=E9acht=F3ir i gc=FArsa=ED imirce/Lecturer in Migration Studies

Chair, Board of Studies of MA in Contemporary Migration and Diaspora Studie=
s

Roinn an T=EDreolais/Department of Geography

Col=E1iste na hOllscoile Corcaigh/University College Cork

Guth=E1n/phone: +353214902207 skype maceinri email/post leictreonach p.mace=
inri[at]ucc.ie
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