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From: Patrick Maume
Who is Jim Shanahan and how did he get into this? I distinctly remember
writing the entry on Antony MacDonnell, and I have just checked the online
version to confirm that I did.
Best wishes,
Patrick

2010/2/10 Ciar=E1n & Margaret =D3 h=D3gartaigh

> William Wilde by J.B. Lyons
>
> Jane Wilde by Owen Dudley Edwards
>
> Oscar Wilde by Owen Dudley Edwards
>
> George Wyndham by Patrick Maume
>
> Anthony Patrick MacDonnell by Jim Shanahan
>
> Lord Cadogan by James Quinn
>
> The marvellous J.B. Lyons died in 2007.
>
> > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:17:40 +0100
> > From: musardant[at]GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: [IR-D] DIB
> > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >
> > May I ask if anyone can tell me the authors of the DIB entries on Sir
> > William Wilde, Lady Wilde, Oscar Wilde, George Wyndham, Sir Antony
> Patrick
> > MacDonnell and ( a long shot ) Lord Cadogan ? I can't gain access to th=
e
> DIB
> > on-line, and cannot afford the printed version.
> >
> > Roy Foster's splendid review is in the TLS for 5th February.
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > David Rose
>
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Hi Patrick=2C

I thought your entries were great=2C especially Tom O'Neill who taught me i=
n NUIG=2C you captured his personality perfectly. Jim Shanahan appears to =
have done many sporting entires in the DIB. I do not know Jim but his entr=
ies on Noel Carroll=2C John Joe Barry=2C the Ballincurry Hare were spot on=
=2C I would not question his athletics knowledge. James McDonald=2C a rugb=
y player=2C not Anthony McDonnell=2C was written by Shanahan=2C the mistake=
was mine. My apologies for the confusion.=20

Best wishes=2C

Margaret.
=20
> Date: Wed=2C 10 Feb 2010 11:52:25 +0000
> From: pmaume[at]GOOGLEMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: [IR-D] DIB entries were written by the following authors
> To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>=20
> From: Patrick Maume
> Who is Jim Shanahan and how did he get into this? I distinctly remember
> writing the entry on Antony MacDonnell=2C and I have just checked the onl=
ine
> version to confirm that I did.
> Best wishes=2C
> Patrick
>=20
> 2010/2/10 Ciar=E1n & Margaret =D3 h=D3gartaigh
>=20
> > William Wilde by J.B. Lyons
> >
> > Jane Wilde by Owen Dudley Edwards
> >
> > Oscar Wilde by Owen Dudley Edwards
> >
> > George Wyndham by Patrick Maume
> >
> > Anthony Patrick MacDonnell by Jim Shanahan
> >
> > Lord Cadogan by James Quinn
> >
> > The marvellous J.B. Lyons died in 2007.
> >
> > > Date: Tue=2C 9 Feb 2010 18:17:40 +0100
> > > From: musardant[at]GMAIL.COM
> > > Subject: [IR-D] DIB
> > > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > >
> > > May I ask if anyone can tell me the authors of the DIB entries on Sir
> > > William Wilde=2C Lady Wilde=2C Oscar Wilde=2C George Wyndham=2C Sir A=
ntony
> > Patrick
> > > MacDonnell and ( a long shot ) Lord Cadogan ? I can't gain access to =
the
> > DIB
> > > on-line=2C and cannot afford the printed version.
> > >
> > > Roy Foster's splendid review is in the TLS for 5th February.
> > >
> > > Many thanks.
> > >
> > > David Rose
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection.
> > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=3D60969
> >
=20
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From; Patrick Maume
Dear Margaret,
Thanks for the compliment - I met TP O'Neill a few times around the
National Library in the late 80s but wouldn't say I knew him well, so what
you say is reassuring.
Thanks also for clearing up the Shanahan/McDon(ald/ell) point.
Best wishes,
Patrick

2010/2/10 Ciar=E1n & Margaret =D3 h=D3gartaigh

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I thought your entries were great, especially Tom O'Neill who taught me i=
n
> NUIG, you captured his personality perfectly. Jim Shanahan appears to ha=
ve
> done many sporting entires in the DIB. I do not know Jim but his entries=
on
> Noel Carroll, John Joe Barry, the Ballincurry Hare were spot on, I would =
not
> question his athletics knowledge. James McDonald, a rugby player, not
> Anthony McDonnell, was written by Shanahan, the mistake was mine. My
> apologies for the confusion.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Margaret.
>
> > Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 11:52:25 +0000
> > From: pmaume[at]GOOGLEMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: [IR-D] DIB entries were written by the following authors
> > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> >
> > From: Patrick Maume
> > Who is Jim Shanahan and how did he get into this? I distinctly remember
> > writing the entry on Antony MacDonnell, and I have just checked the
> online
> > version to confirm that I did.
> > Best wishes,
> > Patrick
> >
> > 2010/2/10 Ciar=E1n & Margaret =D3 h=D3gartaigh
> >
> > > William Wilde by J.B. Lyons
> > >
> > > Jane Wilde by Owen Dudley Edwards
> > >
> > > Oscar Wilde by Owen Dudley Edwards
> > >
> > > George Wyndham by Patrick Maume
> > >
> > > Anthony Patrick MacDonnell by Jim Shanahan
> > >
> > > Lord Cadogan by James Quinn
> > >
> > > The marvellous J.B. Lyons died in 2007.
> > >
> > > > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 18:17:40 +0100
> > > > From: musardant[at]GMAIL.COM
> > > > Subject: [IR-D] DIB
> > > > To: IR-D[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > > >
> > > > May I ask if anyone can tell me the authors of the DIB entries on S=
ir
> > > > William Wilde, Lady Wilde, Oscar Wilde, George Wyndham, Sir Antony
> > > Patrick
> > > > MacDonnell and ( a long shot ) Lord Cadogan ? I can't gain access t=
o
> the
> > > DIB
> > > > on-line, and cannot afford the printed version.
> > > >
> > > > Roy Foster's splendid review is in the TLS for 5th February.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks.
> > > >
> > > > David Rose
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection.
> > > https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=3D60969
> > >
>
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Roehampton University
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From: F.Anthias[at]roehampton.ac.uk [mailto:F.Anthias[at]roehampton.ac.uk]
Forwarded on behalf of
Professor Floya Anthias


Dear colleague,

The intersectionalities: identities and inequalities research group has
pleasure in inviting you to a Symposium on Identity and Intersectionality

on Wednesday 10th March 2010, at Roehampton University, 2-6pm

Venue: Room QB141, Southlands College, Roehampton Lane, London SW15 5SL

with

Professor Nira Yuval Davis, University of East London
Theorizing Identity: beyond the 'us' and 'them' dichotomy

Professor Ann Phoenix, Institute of Education, London University
Recuperating the past in intersectional identifications: Adults looking back
on childhoods constituted through transnational migration

Professor Louise Archer, Kings College, London University
Intersections of 'race', gender and social class in the identity
constructions and educational practices of the minority ethnic
middle-classes

The discussants will be Dr Nirmal Puwar, Goldsmiths College and Dr Anoop
Nayak, University of Newcastle

To reserve a place please contact:

A.Kanwar[at]roehampton.ac.uk



Professor Floya Anthias
School of Business and Social Sciences
Roehampton University
Queens Building
Southlands College
80, Roehampton Lane
London S.W.15 5SL
Tel: 0208 392 5047

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Paddy,

Yes, there seems to have been growing interest in 1641 over the last few =
years and
putting the Depositions online will doubtless spur more. I suspect it was=
not a
topic that a lot of people felt comfortable about exploring during the Tr=
oubles. In
this context, can I do a little self promotion and draw your attention to=
the
article below, which will be appearing soon.

Dianne Hall and Elizabeth Malcolm, =E2=80=98=E2=80=9DThe Rebels Turkish T=
yranny=E2=80=9D: Understanding
Sexual Violence in Ireland during the 1640s=E2=80=99, 'Gender and History=
', 22:1 (April
2010), 55-74.

Elizabeth

-----------------------------------------
> It seems right to remind members of the 1641 Depositions Project...
>
> http://1641.eneclann.ie/
>
>
> The Research Resource
> The three-year project aims to transcribe and digitise the Depositions
> comprising 3,400 depositions, examinations and associated materials, lo=
cated
> in the Library of Trinity College Dublin, in which Protestant men and w=
omen
> of all classes told of their experiences following the outbreak of the
> rebellion by the Catholic Irish in October, 1641. Collected by
> government-appointed commissioners, the witness testimony runs to
> approximately 19,000 pages, and constitutes the chief evidence for the
> sharply contested allegation that the rebellion began with a general
> massacre of protestant settlers. As a result, this material has been ce=
ntral
> to a protracted and bitter historical dispute. Propagandists, politicia=
ns
> and historians have all exploited the depositions at different times, a=
nd
> the controversy surrounding them has never been satisfactorily resolved=
. In
> fact, the 1641 'massacres', like King William's victory at the Boyne (1=
690),
> and the battle of the Somme (1916), have played a key role in creating =
and
> sustaining a collective Protestant/British identity in the province of
> Ulster.
>
> This body of material, unparalleled elsewhere in early modern Europe,
> provides a unique source of information for the causes and events
> surrounding the 1641 rebellion and for the social, economic, cultural,
> religious, and political history of seventeenth-century Ireland, Englan=
d and
> Scotland. In addition, the depositions vividly document various colonia=
l and
> 'civilizing' processes, including the spread of Protestantism in one of=
the
> remotest regions of the Stuart kingdoms and the introduction of lowland
> agricultural and commercial practices, together with the native respons=
e to
> these developments. However, they are both difficult to access and to r=
ead,
> which has severely restricted their research potential. This project,
> transcribing the depositions and making them available online, will gre=
atly
> facilitate their use by a wide audience, build on established links bet=
ween
> TCD and the University of Aberdeen, and develop the strategic aims of b=
oth
> institutions.
>
> http://www.tcd.ie/history/1641/
__________________________________________________
Professor Elizabeth Malcolm

Gerry Higgins Chair of Irish Studies
School of Historical Studies ~ University of Melbourne ~ Victoria, 3010, =
AUSTRALIA
Phone: +61-3-83443924 ~ Email: e.malcolm[at]unimelb.edu.au

President
Irish Studies Association of Australia and New Zealand (ISAANZ)
Website: http://isaanz.org
__________________________________________________

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Irish Studies Review: Volume 18 Issue 1 is now available online at
informaworld (http://www.informaworld.com).

This new issue contains the following articles:

Articles

'Now', 'now', 'even now': temporal deixis and the crisis of the present in
some Northern Irish poems of the Troubles, Pages 1 - 16
Author: David Kennedy

C.S. Lewis: an Irish writer, Pages 17 - 38
Author: David Clare

'Stepping into history': reading the Second World War through Irish women's
diaries, Pages 39 - 56
Author: Carol Acton

'Immigrant games': sports as a metaphor for social encounter in contemporary
Irish drama, Pages 57 - 68
Author: Loredana Salis

Playing for Ireland in foreign fields: the Gaelic Athletic Association and
Irish nationalism in America, Pages 69 - 89
Author: Paul Darby

'. that great swollen belly': the abject maternal in some recent Northern
Irish fiction, Pages 91 - 100
Author: Caroline Magennis

Review Article

Reading poets from the past: Seamus Heaney's poetic evolution, Pages 101 -
108
Author: Richard Rankin Russell

Reviews

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Subject: Book launch, Landing Places: Immigrant Poets in Ireland,
Dublin Book Festival
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Landing Places: Immigrant Poets in Ireland

Edited by Borb=E1la Farag=F3 & Eva Bourke

An anthology of 66 poets, both first generation and more recent =
arrivals,
who between them contribute to, challenge and ultimately broaden the
definition of what is thought of as 'writing from Ireland'.

LAUNCH: Dublin Book Festival, City Hall, Dame Street, Dublin 2. Saturday =
6th
March 2010, at 4.30 pm

Introduced by Hugo Hamilton

Featuring readings by ten of the contributors followed by panel =
discussion
and Q&A session with the editors.

http://www.dedaluspress.com/

All welcome=20
Dr Borb=E1la Farag=F3
borbala.farago[at]ucd.ie

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The Association for the Study of Ethnicity and Nationalism is happy to
announce:
=A0
Managing Ethno-National Conflict speaker series:
=A0
"Nationalism, Tribalism and Ethnic Politics:=20
Why is there sometimes, but not always, conflict?"
=A0
Monday, February 15th, 630pm=20
Wolfson Theatre (New Academic Building)
London School of Economics (LSE)
=A0
by Professor Daniel Chirot
=A0
Professor Daniel Chirot is Job and Gertrud Tamaki Professor of =
International
Studies at the University of Washington. He is the author of three books
about social change, one on tyranny, and most recently he is the =
co-author
of "Why Not Kill Them All?", a work about genocidal political mass =
murder.=20
=A0
In addition, Professor Chirot was founding editor of the journal East
European Politics and Societies. His research has been helped by the
Guggenheim, Rockefeller, and Mellon Foundations. He has consulted for =
the US
Government, the American National Endowment for Democracy, the Ford
Foundation, and CARE. In 2004/05 he was a Senior Fellow at the United =
States
Institute of Peace working on African ethnic and religious conflicts. He =
has
a BA from Harvard University and a PhD from Columbia University.=20
=A0
ASEN: The Association for the Study of Ethnicity and Nationalism=20
London School of Economics Houghton Street, London, WC2A 2AE United =
Kingdom=20
T: +44 (0)20 7955 6801 F: +44 (0)20 7955 6218 E: asen[at]lse.ac.uk W:
www.lse.ac.uk/ASEN/=20

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The Irish Theatrical Diaspora Conference 2010

Ireland's Drama in British Cities
Manchester Metropolitan University, April 15-16, 2010.


CONFERENCE INFORMATION
This conference will examine performances of Irish identity in the
urbancentres of Britain since thebeginning of the 19th century.
The idea of performance is intended to includeevents staged in the theatres
and on the streets, for example parades,
musicalperformances and political demonstrations.

By discussing such performances and their reception by variousaudiences,
speakers and delegates will examine the ways that
'Irishness' has changed in meaning and association in Britain, pressurised
by contexts such ascolonialism and nationalism,
modernisation and economic change in Ireland, theTroubles and the Peace
Process, and others.

Keynote speakers: Mary Hickman, Professor of Irish Studies and Sociology,
London Metropolitan University, and 2010 visiting Senior
Research Fellow at the UCD John Hume Institute,
and Patrick Mason, Director, Adjunct Professor, University College Dublin,
and Visiting Professor, Liverpool Hope University.

Other speakers include: Claire Connolly, Mike Cronin, Karen Fricker,
Nicholas Grene, Patrick Lonergan, Holly Maples, Victor
Merriman, Aoife Monks, Jim Moran, Catherine Rees, Shaun Richards.

Organisers: Aidan Arrowsmith, Manchester Metropolitan University & Emilie
Pine, University College Dublin.

For further information on the conference, please see the website
www.irishtheatricaldiaspora.org
or contact: ITDConference2010[at]gmail.com.



GRADUATE TRAVEL BURSARIES
There are a limited number of Graduate Travel Bursaries available for this
conference. These have been provided by the UCD John
Hume Institute.

PhDstudents and post-doctoral researchers who wish to apply for a travel
bursaryshould submit a 300-word statement outlining how
attendance will be valuable totheir own research. Priority
considerationwill be given to those applicants who do not otherwise
have access toinstitutional support.

Applications for bursaries should be sent to: Dr Emilie Pine, School of
English, Drama andFilm, UCD (Emilie.Pine[at]ucd.ie) by March
14th.

________________
Dr Aidan Arrowsmith
Department of English
Manchester Metropolitan University
Manchester M15 6LL
UK
0161 247 2000

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Dear all,=A0

Please find below information concerning two forthcoming events, both to
take place in room 2.47 of Cardiff University's Humanities Building:

Dr. Harri Pritchard Jones=A0(Academi Gymreig)=A0=91Saunders Lewis: to =
Wales or to
Ireland?=92
Monday, February 22=A0

Dr. Martyn Powell=A0(Aberystwyth University)=A0=A0=91Wales in =
Eighteenth-Century
Irish Tours: Politeness and the Public Sphere=92
Tuesday, 16th March, 2010

best wishes,=A0
Claire Connolly and Katie Gramich=A0

http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/encap/research/networks/wales-ireland/index.html=


Wales-Ireland Network
Established in 2007, the Ireland=96Wales Research Network aims to =
explore the
creative, cultural, and political relationships between Wales and =
Ireland.

The Network, a partnership between Cardiff and Aberystwyth Universities,
aims to develop a deeper awareness of the overlapping, complex and =
connected
histories of Wales and Ireland.=20

Funded by the Arts and Humanities Research Council the Network was =
launched
the Consul General of Ireland in Wales on November 22nd, 2007, at a
reception sponsored by the Government of Ireland. (For press coverage of =
the
launch, see Cardiff University's main News, BBC News and the Western =
Mail).

The Network is managed by Dr Claire Connolly, Dr Katie Gramich (Cardiff
School of English, Communication and Philosophy) and Dr Paul O'Leary
(Department of History and Welsh History, University of Wales, =
Aberystwyth).

For an introduction to the comparative research being undertaken, see =
the
special issue of Irish Studies Review, Volume 17 Issue 1 (Feb 2009). =
Claire
Connolly and Katie Gramich=92s Introduction to the special issue is =
available
through the web site - link above...

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Subject: Roma parallels
From: "D C Rose"
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:46:13 +0100 (Romance Standard Time)



Many lessons here ...

David Rose

-------Original Message-------

From: P.A. Skantze
Date: 12/02/2010 15:19:27
To: SCUDD[at]JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: REMINDER -- 17 February 5:30 - 7:00 Ioana Szeman Roehampton
University

CENTRE FOR PERFORMANCE AND CREATIVE EXCHANGE
ROEHAMPTON DRAMA, THEATRE AND PERFORMANCE STUDIES
Wednesday February 17 5:30 to 7:00 Duchesne 001
Ioana Szeman, DTPS Roehampton
Stages of Erasure: Global "Gypsy" Performance, Lip-Service Multiculturalism
and the Diasporic Imaginary

The presentation will focus on Szeman's book project, which discussses the
globalization of the "Gypsy" brand across genres in performance, film, music
and dance, in light of geo-politics, the history of marginalization of the
Roma and Romania's marginal position in Europe, and the introduction of
multiculturalism, neoliberalism and minority rights for the Roma in Romania.
The erasures this book documents are manifold: from the disappearance of
Roma in plain sight, in "Gypsy" music performances where Romani musicians
play the stereotypes expected of them, to the silencing of class in the
commodification of Romani culture in fairs, festivals and schools, under the
guise of multiculturalism.

Ioana Szeman is a performance studies scholar and an ethnographer. Her
articles include: "'Gypsy Music' and Deejays: Balkanism, Orientalism and
Romani Musicians" TDR, Fall 2009; "Lessons for Theatre of the Oppressed from
a Romanian Orphanage," New Theatre Quarterly, November, 2005; "Finding a
'Home' on Stage: A Place for Romania in Europe?" Theatre Research
International, July, 2003.

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Forwarded on behalf of
CAROLINE CARR(MUSEUM) [CAROLINE.CARR[at]donegalcoco.ie]

Donegal County Museum
Cultural Services Division, Donegal County Council

in association
with Derry City Council Museum and Heritage Service

Cordially invites you to
The Launch of our Unique
Plantation Series Booklets
On
Thursday 18th February at 12o'clock
In Donegal County Museum, High Road, Letterkenny

Light Refreshments will be served. R.S.V.P Required
Tel. 074 9124613 E-mail museum[at]donegalcoco.ie

The aim of this project is to increase awareness of the Plantation and its
impact amongst communities in both Derry and Donegal. These unique booklets
will enable a better understanding of the influence of the Plantation on the
environment, landscapes and architecture in which we live. It will also
allow those with no previous knowledge of the Plantation to gain some
insight into this important period in our history.

Donegal County Museum would like to acknowledge the assistance of the
Department of Arts, Sports and Tourism in the production of this booklet
An Action of the County Donegal Heritage Plan (2007-20011)

Caroline
Donegal County Museum
High Road
Letterkenny
Co Donegal
Ireland
T (00353) 074 9124613
E museum[at]donegalcoco.ie




Moderator's Note
There are 3 booklets, aimed at tourists and schools

A Guide To The Plantation Of Ulster in Derry And Donegal
Plantation Architecture And Landscape In Derry And Donegal
The Legacy Of The Plantation In Derry And Donegal

Dr. Eamonn O'Ciardha, Lecturer in Irish/ English History Literary&
Historical Studies, Academy for Irish Cultural Heritages at the University
of Ulster at Magee, Duncan McLaren of Deadalus Architecture and Dr. William
Kelly, Institute of Ulster Scots Studies at the University of Ulster at
Magee wrote these booklets.

The booklets are free. I do have the booklets here as pdf files, which I
can email on to anyone who would like to see them.

P.O'S.

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Piaras

It is hard to argue against the failure of the State and government policies
during the economic boom as a major, if not the major, cause of the current
economic crisis. But hasn't emigration been largely driven by failed State
economic policies for almost as long as there have been State economic
policies?

I do not understand your use of "entitlement" to describe those with jobs.
No one in the article you linked to seemed to display an attitude of
entitlement nor did I detect that among the people I met while in Ireland
for four months early last year. Can you clarify what you mean?


Bill Mulligan

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Piaras,
I am curious about your take on this situation. I have a close relation=20
in Ireland who is an economist and has predicted this for about 5=20
years. He said to me back at the height of the boom that a serious=20
underlying problem for the Irish economy was the failure to develop=20
indigenous businesses/companies that had sole economic interests in=20
Ireland - as opposed to the "foreign investment"class that the=20
government seem to encourage. Ireland never developed a domestic Irish=20
car industry or domestic Irish electronics, for example. Now the foreign=20
business class seems to be fleeing the coop, Dell is gone - and Bank of=20
Scotland [Halifax division] being the latest move out with the loss of=20
750 jobs, not to mention other ancillary jobs that will go in other=20
banking institutions who conducted business with Halifax.

What is your opinion on this?
Carmel

MacEinri, Piaras wrote:
> It's d=E9ja vu all over again. A new generation is leaving. Some will r=
eturn, undoubtedly, but doesn't it reflect an attitude of failure, on the=
part of the State, and entitlement, on the part of those of us in this p=
lace who have work?
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It's d=E9ja vu all over again. A new generation is leaving. Some will =
return, undoubtedly, but doesn't it reflect an attitude of failure, on =
the part of the State, and entitlement, on the part of those of us in =
this place who have work?

Piaras


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Subject: RE: [IR-D] Business Week article on Irish Emigration
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 10:42:51 -0000
From: "Steven Mccabe"
To: "The Irish Diaspora Studies List"

Sadly, it was all too predictable and simply demonstrates that the =
capitalistic dream means those who 'win' will be at the cost of those =
who do not. As the child of immigrants who left Ireland in the late =
1950s (and returned home every year), it was all too easy for people =
like them to see that it would end badly. I have not read the multitude =
of books that have been written about Ireland's current plight (apart =
form Luck and the Irish by Roy Foster - which is now a little =
out-of-date) but I'm told that Ship of fools, The bankers and The =
Builders are worth a read. If a country like Ireland is to recover in a =
way that is both sustainable and based on a more equitable society it =
must be in a way that never allows the financiers to ever have as much =
control again; precisely what Joseph E. Stiglitz argues in his new book
Freefall: America, Free Markets, and the Sinking of the World Economy.
I fear that people will be seduced into believing that a =
couple of years austerity will put everything back to where it was =
before the global credit crisis and that people can get back to talking =
about how much their houses have gone up in value. I must dig out my =
copy of Das Kapital!=20
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Steven McCabe
Birmingham City Business School=20
Birmingham City University =20
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It's d=E9ja vu all over again. A new generation is leaving. Some will =
return, undoubtedly, but doesn't it reflect an attitude of failure, on =
the part of the State, and entitlement, on the part of those of us in =
this place who have work?

Piaras


http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_08/b4167050028125.htm

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I am a public employee myself and obviously have an ox to protect from
goring, but I think Piaras's argument may be somewhat one-sided. In the
U.S., academic administrators tend to be better paid than professors, but
those in public institutions are not usually better paid than ones in
comparable private ones. Yes, there are some blatant exceptions. Likewise,
there are some professors on almost every campus who are egregiously well
compensated in comparison with their peers. Overall, however, making such
points is a little like the blind person describing an elephant after
touching one its toes. You don't get the whole picture.

If you take academics and compare them with similarly educated people in the
private sector, they rarely do as well financially. That may be fine.
Academics MAY have more satisfying jobs, and the work they do probably does
not have the immediate critical impact as that of persons in professions
like medicine, and they definitely do not have the multiplier effect on
producing wealth that at least some in the private sector have. Their
salaries may be lavish in comparison with those of the unskilled or
semi-skilled, but limiting the comparison to such simple cases is not an
especially balanced form of analysis.

Although compensation is not perfectly tied to intelligence, skill, social
value, or moral decency, I am not prepared to embrace a system that claims
to be able to define what each activity is really "worth" in terms of money.
Nobody on the list has suggested that, but basically that is what we would
have to have in order comprehensively to address the problems with
compensation.

Compensation seems to rest on the public's willingness to pay and the rarity
of particular skills relative to the immediate need of society for them. The
world may not really need the skills of its great movie stars and athletes,
but the public seems willing to pay lavishly for them. It may really need
the skills of its greatest doctors and will vie with money for access to
them. The need for people who can manage money and banks is probably
somewhere between the extremes, but people are not reluctant to spend lots
on people who are very good at it, except for those times when they prove
not to have been very good at it.

Union workers -- especially in a country like the US, where the most
strongly organized are not representative of the work force -- run into
trouble when their wages seem to exceed by far those of non-unionized
workers of the same or greater skills. (Thanks to overtime, a couple of
Madison bus drivers last year made about 150% of what a good, but non-star
professor at the University of Wisconsin would make). When those workers
have also played a role in the collapse of their industries (e.g., the auto
workers) and are also trying to cut a deal to protect themselves against
additional costs for medical insurance that almost everyone else will
endure, their example creates resentment rather than serves as an argument
in behalf of wider unionization.

Public employees run into the problem that the public pays their wages in a
more obvious way than it pays the wages of movie stars, unionized workers in
private industry, and even the corner grocer. To oversimplify a bit, if the
government can muster 51% support for paying public workers more, the other
49% have to go along with it. If that 49% (or more) believe that "special
interests" were able to influence through "corrupt means" the formation of
that majority, the anger gets even worse. There is not much professors can
do to protect themselves against that anger. Strikes by university
employees wouldn't have much effect, and the professors would run out of
money before the society would feel any impact. In that respect, they have
less power than elementary school teachers, who provide valuable
baby-sitting services as well as some useful instruction.

All that I am saying is that it is not easy to determine what fair pay for
any activity is. The world may not be fair, but there are no shortcuts to
correcting the situation. Professors often have a good deal, and nobody
drinking at the public tap should be surprised when the townsfolk get testy.
Singling them out as poster children for what is wrong in the world's reward
system, however, is a bit over the top.

Tom

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Hi Bill, Carmel and all

Yes, I suppose my choice of the word 'entitlement' was not the best, as =
it's true that I wasn't thinking of those interviewed in the article, =
but of a more general point, which I should have explained.

This is not a popular view for someone who is an active member of a =
trade union to express, but the fact remains that that we are overpaid =
in this country, especially at senior levels of the public service. The =
president of my university has a basic salary in the region of =80285k. =
p.a., more than the president of any other Irish university and more =
than Barack Obama, Nicolas Sarkozy or Angela Merkel are paid. I raised =
this matter publicly with him (nothing personal =96 I brought it up in =
my capacity as an elected governor of the university) and received the =
fatuous answer that 'people on higher incomes tend to have higher =
outgoings'. It's not confined to him either. We have at least seven =
other people earning more than =80200k p.a. and all professors on this =
campus are apparently so good that they are all on a scale terminating =
at over =80150k until it was reduced in January 2010 to =80138k (these =
figures are public =96 see =
http://www.ucc.ie/en/hr/salaryscales/Salary%20Scales%202010_01%20Revised.=
pdf). The scale, moreover, is short, and it is unhead of for someone not =
to receive her/his increment, irrespective of performance.

One colleague recently appointed here (from the UK) told me he thought =
there was a typo in the salary set out in the email he received offering =
him the post of professor here. Another member of our Governing Body is =
a former president of the University of Leiden: when I asked my question =
about our guy's salary he told me that in the Netherlands an eminent =
professor with strong publications and an international profile might =
earn =8080-90k, but not every professor. A university president there =
might expect to earn =80150k.

My point is not a narrow one of begrudgery about academic life. =
Throughout the entire public service the same pattern can be discerned =
=96 an elite group, but a rather large one, is overpaid by every =
conceivable international benchmark. In our heart of hearts we know =
this, but say nothing.

In the Celtic Tiger period from about the mid =96 1900s to the early =
part of the following decade =96 say 2002 =96 the Irish economic miracle =
was based on very solid growth, notably in a highly competitive export =
sector in goods and services. After that the growth which occurred was =
largely generated by domestic demand driven by cheap and ready access to =
other people's money, as we were in the eurozone by then. The resulting =
explosion of credit fuelled a property boom as people bid up the price =
of land to fantastic levels. Example: I bought my house in 1994 for the =
equivalent in Irish pounds of about =80100k. It was valued in 2006, but =
two different auctioneers, at =80750k and =80800k respectively. Now it's =
probably still worth about half that, but falling!

A complacent public sector was kept on-side by sweetheart deals (it was =
called social partnership, although some might see it as bribery). The =
whole mix was further complicated by an unnaturally close relationship =
between the construction sector and the party in power, fuelled by =
corruption in some cases, and by staggeringly inefficient elements in =
the broader semi-state sector, notably health, and by gouging =96 =
overcharging =96 by large parts of the retail and services industry, =
including the liberal professions (a typical GP visit in Ireland costs =
=8050 or more). When the bubble burst everything came down. Ireland is =
not in the same crisis situation as Greece, but we will be paying for =
this for decades, as will our children and grandchildren.=20

My point about entitlement is also a point about complacency. We have =
just lived through a once-and-for-all change in our economic and social =
life, but those on the inside continue to talk and to live as if this =
has not happened. The failure is particularly noticeable at political =
level. Thus, we must cut back on public expenditure and everyone knew we =
needed to reduce it by =804bn in the first place last December, but it =
was done by attacking the lowest paid public sector workers =96 all of =
them had a cut of 5% - while leaving the highest paid in a relatively =
more favorable position. Social welfare, education and health are all =
being targeted for savings, but in a way which is likely to reduce the =
quality of services, rather than having everyone experiencing a =
proportionate reduction in salary. In my department of the university, =
we have gone in 12 months from 13.5 permanent staff to 9.5, but we are =
expected to teach more students than we had two years ago, while our =
part-time teaching budget (i.e. for tutorials) is gone. The suspicion is =
that employers, in both the state and private sectors, are using the =
economic crisis to drive all kinds of other agendas, including the =
dilution of long-established rights and entitlements. Moreover, we have =
lost sight of the fact that we have such poor essential services and =
infrastructure in an allegedly rich country in large part because tax =
rates, driven by a neoliberal policy, have been excessively low.

I think that if politicians and senior people in public life had led =
from the front, taken a major hit themselves and asked everyone else to =
do likewise, with due regard for the least well paid and most =
disadvantaged, we could recover our competitiveness, reduce the rising =
level of national debt and chart a path to recovery. Instead we are =
hitting the soft targets while dragging our feet on all of the =
structural issues. For instance, there is no denying that some of this =
crisis was generated outside our shores but a lot of it was indigenous, =
but not a single corrupt banker =96 and we all know the names =96 has =
been charged with any offence.=20

Emigration is the elephant in the room in all this. The media have =
picked up the story and have featured reports on the new exodus, but =
politicians, by and large, have studiously avoided comment. There has =
to be a suspicion that the return of emigration is actually welcomed in =
some quarters, notably on the Government side, as it enables rising =
unemployment figures (currently just under 13%) to be massaged. By our =
inaction, we are condemning a new generation to leave against their =
will: obviously there are always some (including me, in my time) we =
leave voluntarily and that's fine.

Carmel, you asked about the failure to develop indigenous economic =
activity in Ireland. I think you are absolutely right. It's striking =
that during the boom years we put our money, not into entrepreneurial =
activity, but into property. I don't think we could ever have developed =
a strong indigenous sector in high-cost sectors such as the auto =
industry =96 I drive a Saab (fourteen years old..) and the history of =
that company, once one of Sweden's bright stars, shows all too clearly =
that in an era of globalisation a few giants with mega-millions will =
come to dominate the market (although even Toyota is now in trouble..). =
But we could and should have developed a far stronger indigenous sector =
in areas like software and services. In other developed countries growth =
has been driven by SMEs =96 that's true in Ireland as well but to a far =
lesser extent.

Piaras

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Discourses of diasporic responsibility in Ireland: The modern
moment and the discursive costs of moving
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Discourses of diasporic responsibility in Ireland: The modern moment and the
discursive costs of moving

Aaron Thornburg (aaron.thornburg[at]duke.edu) (Department of Cultural
Anthropology, Duke University, Durham, NC, United States.)

In this paper, I offer a critical reflection regarding the rhetorical
employment of an analogy between mid-nineteenth-century, Famine-age
emigrants from Ireland and non-Irish-national immigrants that have been
increasingly present in the Republic of Ireland since the mid-1990s. While
this discursive device is considered to be politically correct,
cosmopolitan, and/or accepting of recent migrants to Ireland, I maintain
that drawing the comparison between Famine-age and earlier emigrants from
Ireland and current-day immigrants to the island supports the
characterization of non-Irish-national residents as less than modern and
incapable of integration into Irish society.

Journal Migration Letters
Publisher Migration Letters
ISSN 1741-8984 (Print) 1741-8992 (Online)
Issue Volume 6, Number 1 / April 2009
Category RESEARCH PAPER
Pages 37-47
Online Date Thursday, March 19, 2009

http://www.migrationletters.com/

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Dear Colleagues,

Does anyone have some good sources on 20th century Irish legal history? In=
particular, I'm interested in the history of Petty Sessions which were for=
malized in 1827 and remained in practice in the early years of the Irish Fr=
ee State. I have some data on Petty Sessions from Co. Clare in the 1930s. =
I don't know what happened after that period. I'd appreciate any thoughts=
, suggestions, or directions you might suggest.

Thanks,
Brigittine French

Brigittine M. French, PhD
Assistant Professor of Anthropology
Grinnell College=